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0:00 Intro

1:03 How Rick feels being a “liberal maverick,” according to the NYT

4:18 Rick’s advocacy for class-based affirmative action

6:39 Rick: “The Trump administration has gone too far” by trying to eliminate racial diversity

13:02 Opening up the elite university’s old boys club

21:21 Will economic diversity in admissions come with test score disparities?

23:55 Ground News ad 25:56 What’s Edward Blum’s deal?

29:36 Rick: The Democratic Party needs to ask itself why it lost to Trump

34:48 The black allies of class-based affirmative action

40:53 Is vocational training a viable alternative to four years of college?

44:48 Addressing the development problem among black students

52:52 Rick’s hopes for a new Democratic Party

Links and Readings

Rick’s new book, Class Matters: The Fight to Get Beyond Race Preferences, Reduce Inequality, and Build Real Diversity at America’s Colleges

Pew poll on race and ethnicity in college admissions

Glenn and John’s 2023 conversation with Peter Arcidiacono

The 1966 Coleman report, Equality of Educational Opportunity

Rick’s book, Excluded: How Snob Zoning, NIMBYism, and Class Bias Build the Walls We Don't See

Rick’s Atlantic piece, “Liberal Suburbs Have Their Own Border Wall”

Progressive Policy Institute

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