0:00 John: Let’s be honest about what “taking race into account” means in affirmative action

10:09 Glenn: How can anyone argue that race-based affirmative action doesn’t violate the 14th Amendment?

19:29 Why are we so focused on elite institutions?

24:32 John: The University of California works just fine without “racial preferences”

30:28 “You’re pulling the ladder up behind you” is an invalid critique

35:00 John: The fact that racism exists does not justify changing standards

44:04 Why Roland Fryer thinks we should put our money where our mouth is on race and education

51:04 Will the post-Students for Fair Admissions future turn into a “Hardship Olympics”?

Recorded July 8, 2023

Links and Readings

Zachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action, Mismatch, and Economic Mobility after California’s Proposition 209”

Zachary Bleemer’s paper, “Affirmative Action and Its Race-Neutral Alternatives”

The Supreme Court opinions in Students for Fair Admissions v. Harvard

John’s book, Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America

John’s NYT piece, “On Race and Academia”

Roland Fryer’s NYT oped, “How to Fix College Admissions Now”

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