Songs To Live By is a podcast celebrating different generations of Black culture through the shared love of music. Host Vick Hope is joined by two guests, who grew up at different times, to share the songs that shaped their lives.

In this episode, Vick is joined by Rizzle Kicks singer Jordan Stephens and poet Benjamin Zephaniah. They pick tracks by The Streets and The Meditations and talk about spoken word, lyrics and life (and why Jordan has a fanboy crush on Benjamin).

They chat about their work and their passions and go back and forth on what music and art really means to them, and how it has shaped their views today.

Benjamin is a writer, poet and musician with talents aplenty and never one to bottle his thoughts and views. Jordan is one half of the Hip Hop group ‘Rizzle Kicks’, writer, poet and presenter of the show ‘Don’t Hate The Playaz’.