On Sunday, Mike Erre broke out his tech drawing tools to illustrate the difference between the Earth that perishes and an eternal life temple space. We're still trying to figure out what the hair on his globe means, but the discussion yielded questions on how people live in one space but still show behavior from the other one. Grant Opperman joins regulars Mike and Kevin Dixon to dig deeper.

Plus: Mike previews his upcoming drawings of time and the multiverse , Grant shouts out Mike's brother Brad Erre in the show notes and Kevin just wishes he had gone to Honduras or California this week with the rest of the Journey crew.

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