One podcast interview has triggered one of the biggest media stories of the year.

Channel 9 and Karl Stefanovic have reportedly parted ways following Karl's interview with UK activist Tommy Robinson. But was this really about one podcast... or was it the moment an already changing relationship finally reached its conclusion?

Employment lawyer Michael Byrnes joins us to unpack the legal, commercial and reputational questions behind the decision.

We discuss whether Australia's biggest television personalities can ever separate their personal brands from their employers, why advertisers often shape these decisions, and whether media companies are becoming increasingly vulnerable to organised pressure campaigns.

We also examine what Karl's reported departure could mean for his new partnership with Eddie McGuire and ARN, and why this story may have implications well beyond one presenter.

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