In this AMFEST episode, Sean sits down with Karys Rhea to unpack the growing fractures inside the conservative movement—what she calls a rising wave of identitarianism, sectarianism, and “edge-lord politics” built for clicks.

Karys breaks down why the MAGA “big tent” created an opening for extremists to chase virality, how gatekeeping is different than cancel culture, and why keeping hateful ideology on the fringes isn’t censorship—it’s protecting the movement’s foundation.

They also dig into the post-Trump future of the GOP, the fight over who “inherits” America First, the role of bots and foreign influence online, and why today’s ideological chaos could shape the next election more than anyone wants to admit.

If you’ve felt like the Right is splintering in real time… this conversation explains why.

🎯 What you’ll learn

🔥 Why “edge-lord” outrage is rewarded — but destroys movements long-term

🧠 How scapegoating replaces personal responsibility (and becomes political brain-rot)

🚧 The difference between gatekeeping and cancel culture

🧩 What “post-liberal / post-democratic” factions want after Trump

🕵️ How bots + “human bots” distort the conservative ecosystem online

🌍 Why some “anti-war” narratives become a double standard

⚖️ What “peace through strength” looks like (vs the two extremes)

Chapters (with timestamps)

0:00 – The “edge-lord” incentive: outrage = clicks

0:40 – Intro at AMFEST + Karys’ current work

1:28 – Advising journalists & lawmakers on a new Right-wing fracture

2:06 – Post-Trump GOP: who takes the mantle of MAGA?

3:28 – Subgroups vying for power + “post-liberal” ideologies

5:05 – Groypers, heckling, and why AMFEST became a flashpoint

7:09 – “Anti-Semitism isn’t sustainable” + why movements collapse

8:09 – Gatekeeping vs cancel culture: where the line is

14:15 – Tucker Carlson critique: “conservative or leftist?”

27:01 – Free speech, deplatforming, bots, and the next online war

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