This episode is an insight into Jono's grief work, and how he arrived here. His dance partner in this conversation is his friend (and previous therapist) Kate-Marie Mutsaers. Kate-Marie has over 25 years experience as a community facilitator, somatic therapist, body worker and movement facilitator - walking alongside people in private practice, prisons, disaster settings and dance floors across locations as varied as Central Australia, the Middle East, India, Papua New Guinea and now France where she currently resides. But Jono didn't ask Kate-Marie to join him because of her bio. He asked Kate-Marie because of her groundedness, her heart and integrity. She's a beautiful person to talk with, and she's been an incredible support for Jono in his life. Jono hopes this conversation gives you a glimpse into where he's at - and why he's so drawn to offering grief work during these challenging times. Jono also hopes you also enjoy getting to know Kate-Marie and her stunning presence. Whatever the shape of your grief, it's never too late to meet it with gentleness and care. This isn't about wallowing, but remembering how to restore aliveness to our world. Thank you for being part of this caring community. Love, Jono