Lead Culture with Jenni Catron

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Healthy leadership creates healthy culture.

On LeadCulture with Jenni Catron, you’ll gain practical leadership development insights to help you lead with clarity and build

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Number 1: 341 | Discipline, Grace, and Friendship at Work with Marcylle Combs
Can you be friends with the people you lead? Most HR advice says no. In this conversation, Jenni sits down with Marcylle Combs, entrepreneur, executive mentor, and author of Never Hire Your Friends, to talk about why friendship at work, handled well, can be a leader's greatest asset. Marcylle has spent more than three decades leading organizations. Her leadership story started with a hard moment. Early in her career as a young home health branch manager, she learned that her entire team had met with the company owner to complain about her. A wise colleague gave her two choices: sit down with every employee, or start firing them. Marcylle chose to listen. That moment turned a reluctant manager into a lifelong student of leadership, with a goal of being both the hardest and the best boss her people would ever have. Jenni and Marcylle dig into what Marcylle calls "friendship management," the ongoing tension between discipline and grace, and why clear expectations are what make close relationships at work possible. They also talk about what emerging leaders need from those of us who have been leading for decades. What you'll hearMarcylle's leadership wake-up call, and why she chose to listen instead of clean houseHow to hold people to a high standard while making sure they know you careWhy knowing when to give discipline and when to give grace takes mentoring, not just a policy manualWhy Never Hire Your Friends really means always hire your friends, and the three pillars behind it: honor, honesty, and humilitySetting ground rules for friendships at work, from "boss hat vs. friend hat" to what an email, a text, or a phone call signalsHow senior leaders can better understand and mentor a younger generation whose experience is very different from their ownMarcylle's encouragement: the only person you can change is yourself, so keep learning and keep investing in othersConnect with Marcylle CombsWebsite: https://www.marcyllecombs.com/Book: Never Hire Your Friends Podcast: 50% with Marcylle CombsLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcylle-combs-65978425We need your help to get the LeadCulture podcasts in front of more leaders! There are three simple things you can do that truly help us:Review us on Apple podcasts Subscribe - we’re available wherever you listen to podcasts.Share - let your friends know about the podcast by sharing your favorite episode on social media!
September 24, 202639min
Number 2: 340 | Trust Is Built in Systems of Repair with Dr. Rob McKenna
Trust is the thing every leader depends on and almost no one builds on purpose. In this conversation, Jenni sits down with Dr. Rob McKenna, founder of WiLD Leaders and author of Whole Leaders, Wild Trust, to talk about why trust is a byproduct of leader development, not a topic you can lecture your way into. Dr. Rob has spent decades running longitudinal leadership studies, including a six-and-a-half-year study following 120 leaders in aerospace, plus research with several thousand engineers moving into leadership roles and a multi-year study of leaders in large church organizations. What emerged surprised him: as teams did the work of understanding their own competence, motivation, and purpose together, they started trusting each other — without anyone naming trust as the goal. Jenni and Dr. Rob dig into why trust feels like air (essential, invisible, impossible to grab), what happens when a CEO's read on their culture is rosier than their employees', and the single question a leader can bring to their team on Monday morning that opens the door to real candor. What you'll hearWhy leader development and trust building turn out to be the same workWhether trust is genuinely harder to build today, and what social media may be doing to our appetite for candorThe trust quadrant: team trust on one axis, organizational trust on the other — and what it means to be in the "jungle" versus the "stronghold"The uncomfortable pattern in the data: leaders of low-trust organizations tend to think things are better than they are, while high-trust CEOs are accurate or under-rate their own cultureWhy the leaders most afraid to measure trust are usually the ones who already know it's lowJenni on the delta between how leaders experience culture and how employees doConnect with Dr. Rob McKennaWiLD Leaders: wildleaders.orgContact the team — [email protected] Leading Under Pressure Inventory and other assessments — wildleaders.org/the-wild-toolkitBook: Whole Leaders, Wild TrustWe need your help to get the LeadCulture podcasts in front of more leaders! There are three simple things you can do that truly help us:Review us on Apple podcasts Subscribe - we’re available wherever you listen to podcasts.Share - let your friends know about the podcast by sharing your favorite episode on social media!
September 10, 202640min
Number 3: 339 | The Hidden Reason Middle Management Is Burning People Out with Adam Tarnow
In this episode, Jenni talks with leadership development specialist and author Adam Tarnow about why middle management feels like an impossible role, and why it may actually be the most important one in an organization. They unpack the tension of carrying responsibility without full control, and Adam shares a practical framework for navigating the stress of leadership without burning out. In this episode, Adam explains why the middle is where execution happens, why so many managers feel stuck in a “valley,” and how leaders can regain a sense of agency by focusing on what they can control. He also offers a simple sentence-based tool from his book The Fog of Work that helps leaders move from overwhelm to action. Key TopicsJenni introduces the episode by framing culture as either a strategic asset or a liability, especially during growth, merger, or crisis.Adam shares why he wrote The Fog of Work and why middle managers became his focus after years of living in that role himself.They discuss how middle management used to be a respected position, and how pop culture turned it into a punchline.Adam explains why middle managers are often the “verbs in the sentence” of an organization - the people who make execution happen.The conversation highlights the pressure of being a player-coach: managing your own work while leading others.Jenni names the “they” problem - the tendency to blame vague forces instead of recognizing personal influence and agency.Adam describes middle management as a valley where problems roll downhill and collect, creating stress, ambiguity, and accountability without full control.He introduces the idea that the real question is not “How do I get out?” but “How do I get through?”Adam shares the fog clearing sentence: “I don’t control blank, but I do control blank, so I will blank.”They connect the middle of an organization to the middle of a story, where growth, character, and transformation happen.Jenni and Adam both emphasize that leaders can improve culture by focusing on what they can influence directly, especially within their own teams.The episode closes with encouragement for senior leaders to equip middle managers with practical tools, not just expectations.We need your help to get the LeadCulture podcasts in front of more leaders! There are three simple things you can do that truly help us:Review us on Apple podcasts Subscribe - we’re available wherever you listen to podcasts.Share - let your friends know about the podcast by sharing your favorite episode on social media!
August 27, 202637min
Number 4: 338 | Communication in Team Culture with Special Guest River
In this episode, Jenni Catron and her 11-year-old nephew River explore the fundamentals of team culture through engaging stories and insights. River shares his unique perspective on support, communication, focus, and the impact of individual roles in shaping a positive culture. Takeaways:Support is the most important aspect of culture.Effective communication is crucial for team success.Focus and commitment drive team performance.Everyone has a role in shaping culture, regardless of age.Positive culture can be maintained or ruined by individual actions. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the episode and guest River 01:00 Why we call it Switch Week and family traditions 01:30 River introduces himself and his love for sports 02:27 River shares his thoughts on support in culture 02:56 Support in sports and teams 03:23 The importance of communication in team culture 04:21 Learning from communication in pickleball 05:16 Communication during baseball games 05:45 The impact of fast plays and clear communication 07:16 Focus and distraction in sports 08:11 The responsibility of leaders and team members in culture 09:12 The influence of positivity and encouragement 09:36 Recognizing individual roles in culture 10:31 Culture as a fragile ecosystem 11:00 River’s perspective on culture and youth influence 11:31 Closing thoughts and call to action We need your help to get the LeadCulture podcasts in front of more leaders! There are three simple things you can do that truly help us:Review us on Apple podcasts Subscribe - we’re available wherever you listen to podcasts.Share - let your friends know about the podcast by sharing your favorite episode on social media!
August 20, 202613min
Number 5: 337 | Protecting the Rhythms that Keep You Healthy, Purposeful, and Present as a Leader
In this episode of Lead Culture, Jenni Catron shares what she learned during an extended summer break and why stepping back can be essential for sustainable leadership. She reflects on the tension between doing and being, the challenge of slowing down, and how time away revealed deeper questions about purpose, significance, and identity.Jenni opens with a reminder that culture does not take care of itself and that leaders must lead with intention. She then shares how her sabbatical included time with friends and family, reading, rest, and intentional disconnection from social media, email, and Slack. Even though the break was restful, it also surfaced a struggle many overachievers face: feeling significant only when they are productive.A major takeaway from the episode is that nothing magical happened on sabbatical — and that was the point. Instead of chasing big ideas or a new vision, Jenni focused on stillness, presence, and making space for what matters most. She describes how this time helped her recognize the importance of creative space, mental rest, and the right-brain work of meaning-making and reflection.Jenni also connects her personal experience to a broader cultural insight, referencing Arthur Brooks’ research on how modern life often overvalues efficiency and problem-solving while undernourishing meaning, creativity, and human connection. She shares how this tension was made even more vivid in the wake of an EF3 tornado in her community, where people rallied together and reminded her that people are the point. Key TakeawaysHealthy leaders need rhythms that sustain them.Rest is productive when it creates space for meaning and clarity.Leaders often confuse being with doing.Creativity, stillness, and reflection are essential leadership practices.People should remain the priority, even in busy or crisis-filled seasons.Questions Jenni Asks LeadersWhat can you do that disrupts your rhythms and lowers your heart rate?How can you disconnect your doing from your being?Are you making space for quiet, creativity, and presence?What rhythms do you need to lead in a healthy, sustainable way?Resources MentionedInvitation to Solitude and Silence by Ruth Haley BartonThe Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark ComerThe Sabbatical Journey by Alan BriggsThe Meaning of Life by Arthur BrooksJenni’s book Clout: Discover and Unleash Your God-given InfluenceClosing Encouragement Jenni ends by encouraging leaders to protect the rhythms that keep them healthy, purposeful, and present — not only for their own well-being, but for the health of their teams and cultures. To connect with Jenni, email [email protected]. We need your help to get the LeadCulture podcasts in front of more leaders! There are three simple things you can do that truly help us:Review us on Apple podcasts Subscribe - we’re available wherever you listen to podcasts.Share - let your friends know about the podcast by sharing your favorite episode on social media!
August 12, 202620min