Nina Barnes, Vice President of Student Life at University of Northwestern chats today with Steph about leadership, coaching and navigating conflict as a woman and a person of color.

Listen in to hear her discuss why being a person of color has been harder to navigate than being a female leader, and how she approaches situations where she may not have been welcomed as a woman or person of color.

Nina also shares her journey into spiritual directorship and what it looks like for us to use the Enneagram in conflict resolution.

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