We begin 2023 with the honor of hearing from three strong, wise, and insightful Second Chair Leaders. We’re joined by Kyle Heinecke, Campus Pastor at Fresh Life Church, Kalispell, MT; Jennifer Martin, Executive Pastor of Ministries at NorthRock Church in San Antonio, TX; and Dillon Ritchie, Ministry Executive Director at CoastLife Church in Venice, FL. This is the Year of the Leader at Leading Second and today we are focusing on how to be strong leaders and how to develop strong leaders around us.

In what has become a bit of a tradition for the Leading Second Podcast, we are closing out our season with one last conversation at the end of the year in hopes of fueling the start of your next year! Few topics are more important to Lindsay and me than family and ministry. Getting this wrong is one of the quickest ways to be taken out, so we wanted to break down some of our top rhythms for this.

“Why we should have left, why we choose to stay.” That is in Natalie Runion’s Instagram bio, and that is what her heart is for any time you hear her speak or, more likely, read the words she has written. You probably know her as “Raised to Stay,” but she started with a passion for seeing people go the distance in ministry. She joins me to have a conversation about church hurt.

For this conversation, I have the pleasure of talking with Jonathan Moore, Matt Martin, and Jennifer Martin from NorthRock Church in San Antonio, Texas. They’ve all been together for over ten years now, and longevity in ministry and leadership is one of the most impressive things to me. So the big idea of the conversation is simple. Why did you stay?

It’s our final conversation in this series of things that will take you out of ministry, and we’re back with the team from The Well in Salt Lake City. We are called to be good stewards of what we’ve been given. With the help of Jason Parrish, Seth Freeman, and Kaisa Freeman, we talk through how we can do that and unlock some things in our leadership and ministry with core competencies.

The longer you’re in ministry, the higher the chance you’ll face some things that could take you out. But knowing what they are can make all the difference in how you respond when they do come. This conversation is with Jason Parrish, Seth Freeman, and Kaisa Freeman from The Well in Salt Lake City, Utah. We’re talking about doctrinal and theological congruence. Those are some big words with a big impact on the foundation of our lives and our alignment with our church.

Spend enough time in ministry, and you will face some things that have the potential to take you out of leadership and ministry altogether. Jason Warman and Trevor and Laydi Ritchie from CoastLife Church join us again. This time we shift our focus and have a needed conversation on character identity and formation.

The title of this conversation and series may sound strong, but it should. If you spend enough time in ministry, you will face things that have the potential to take you out of leadership and ministry altogether. Jason Warman, Trevor Ritchie, and Laydi Ritchie from CoastLife Church join us to focus on cultural alignment and congruence.

This conversation is a continuation of the conversation we had with our Lead Pastor panel last week, but this time is with second chair leaders from those same churches! Dave and Sarah Nelson from The Well, Girly Gordon from The Movement OC, and Jeff Hanson from One Place Church chase down the same big idea that their pastors did. "The better the relationship between the first and second chair, the more aligned our teams will be and the healthier our churches will be."