In HRchat  274, we talk about learning leadership lessons through adversity and how to tap into your “firm yet kind” side.

Bill's guest this time is Laila Tarraf, Chief People Officer at Allbirds, a global footwear and apparel brand on a mission to show the fashion industry why it needs to focus less on flash and more on thoughtfulness.

In addition to being CPO at AllBirds, Leila is a trusted advisor to entrepreneurs and investors, a regular guest lecturer at Berkeley Law School, and most recently, author of the April 2021 book Strong Like Water: How I Found the Courage to Lead with Love in Business and in Life. In her book, Laila shares her journey of awakening and transformation as a mother, a woman, and a leader.

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