Daniel Lereya, the Chief Product and Technology Officer at monday.com, shares how he and his team realized they were being outpaced by competitors and how that realization completely transformed how they operate and allowed them to build a global powerhouse, doing over $1 billion in ARR, with 245,000 customers worldwide.

What you’ll learn:

1. How they used seemingly impossible goals, like building 25 new features in one month, to unlock bigger thinking on their team

2. How sharing real-time metrics with the entire company—even during interviews—created a culture of accountability and alignment

3. How focusing on impact, rather than just shipping features, has transformed the company’s culture

4. The story behind monday.com’s decision to launch five new products simultaneously and how it redefined their market positioning

5. How they use “traps” (timeboxed deadlines) to drive focus, avoid scope creep, and deliver faster

6. Daniel’s personal journey of navigating impostor syndrome and scaling challenges, and the mental models he uses to stay grounded and effective

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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-lereya-aa487646/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Daniel and monday.com

(04:20) The pivotal moment: competitors shipping faster

(08:50) Setting ambitious goals

(17:44) Focusing on impact rather than features

(27:07) Transforming your product quarterly

(32:07) Scaling monday.com: challenges and strategies

(39:14) How monday.com maintains transparency as a public company

(45:40) The importance of taking risks

(51:02) Counterintuitive lessons in product development

(54:33) The value of timeboxing and deadlines

(57:28) Embracing user feedback

(59:54) Adapting leadership styles

(01:04:43) Personal reflections on leadership

(01:10:41) Handling crises and strategic planning

(01:17:28) The role of AI in work and personal life

(01:22:13) Final thoughts and lightning round

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Referenced:

• Monday.com: https://monday.com/

• The basics of a monday.com board: https://support.monday.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005317249-The-basics-of-a-board

• Eran Zinman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eranzinman/

• Roy Mann on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/manroy/

• Tal Harari on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tal-harari-a2515215/

• Four-minute mile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-minute_mile

• A better way to plan, build, and ship products | Ryan Singer (creator of “Shape Up,” early employee at 37signals): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/shape-up-ryan-singer

• Brian Chesky’s new playbook: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/brian-cheskys-contrarian-approach

• AI blocks: https://support.monday.com/hc/en-us/articles/18433811274386-AI-Automation-blocks

• Unpacking Amazon’s unique ways of working | Bill Carr (author of Working Backwards): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/unpacking-amazons-unique-ways-of

• Behind the founder: Drew Houston (Dropbox): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-founder-drew-houston-dropbox

• SpaceX: https://www.spacex.com/

• Why and how to lead with transparency: https://monday.com/blog/monday-insights/may-30th/

• How to win in the AI era: Ship a feature every week, embrace technical debt, ruthlessly cut scope, and create magic your competitors can’t copy | Gaurav Misra (CEO and co-founder of Captions): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-win-in-the-ai-era-gaurav-misra

• This Week #5: Overcoming impostor syndrome, introducing growth to an org, and how to partner with your data scientist: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/this-week-overcoming-impostor-syndrome

• Sheryl Sandberg on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sheryl-sandberg-5126652/

• Bryan Johnson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanrjohnson/

• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/

• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

• How to build deeper, more robust relationships | Carole Robin (Stanford GSB professor, “Touchy Feely”): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/build-robust-relationships-carole-robin

• FIFA 22: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/concept/10002538/

• Formula 1: Drive to Survive on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/title/80204890

• Google Photos: https://photos.google.com/

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Recommended books:

• Shape Up: Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters: https://basecamp.com/shapeup

• Working Backwards: Insights, Stories, and Secrets from Inside Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Working-Backwards-Insights-Stories-Secrets/dp/1250267595

• No Rules Rules: Netflix and the Culture of Reinvention: https://www.amazon.com/No-Rules-Netflix-Culture-Reinvention/dp/1984877860

• Nonviolent Communication: A Language of Life: Life-Changing Tools for Healthy Relationships: https://www.amazon.com/Nonviolent-Communication-Language-Life-Changing-Relationships/dp/189200528X/

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AI is rapidly changing how we live and work. It’s exciting, but also overwhelming. If you’re struggling to keep up, and wondering how to actually use these magical new tools to improve the quality and efficiency of your work, I’m thrilled to introduce How I AI with Claire Vo—the first ever new podcast under the Lenny’s Podcast network. Claire is an engineer, three-time CPO, and AI builder. In each episode, her guest shows you a specific, practical, and impactful way they’ve learned to use AI. Forget theoretical debates—this podcast is about real, valuable use cases. Expect 30-minute episodes, live demos, and tips/tricks/workflows you can implement immediately. Whether you’re building products, leading teams, or just looking to level up your AI skills, How I AI is for you.

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Varun Mohan is the co-founder and CEO of Windsurf (formerly Codeium), an AI-powered development environment (IDE) that has been used by over 1 million developers in just four months and has quickly emerged as a leader in transforming how developers build software. Prior to finding success with Windsurf, the company pivoted twice—first from GPU virtualization infrastructure to an IDE plugin, and then to their own standalone IDE.

In this conversation, you'll learn:

1. Why Windsurf walked away from a profitable GPU infrastructure business and bet the company on helping engineers code

2. The surprising UI discovery that tripled adoption rates overnight.

3. The secret behind Windsurf's B2B enterprise plan, and why they invested early in an 80-person sales team despite conventional startup wisdom.

4. How non-technical staff at Windsurf built their own custom tools instead of purchasing SaaS products, saving them over $500k in software costs

5. Why Varun believes 90% of code will be AI-generated, but engineering jobs will actually increase

6. How training on millions of incomplete code samples gives Windsurf an edge, and creates a moat long-term

7. Why agency is the most undervalued and important skill in the AI era

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• X: https://x.com/_mohansolo

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/varunkmohan/

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• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Varun’s background

(03:57) Building and scaling Windsurf

(12:58) Windsurf: The new purpose-built IDE to harness magic

(17:11) The future of engineering and AI

(21:30) Skills worth investing in

(23:07) Hiring philosophy and company culture

(35:22) Sales strategy and market position

(39:37) JetBrains vs. VS Code: extensibility and enterprise adoption

(41:20) Live demo: building an Airbnb for dogs with Windsurf

(42:46) Tips for using Windsurf effectively

(46:38) AI’s role in code modification and review

(48:56) Empowering non-developers to build custom software

(54:03) Training Windsurf

(01:00:43) Windsurf’s unique team structure and product strategy

(01:06:40) The importance of continuous innovation

(01:08:57) Final thoughts and advice for aspiring developers

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Referenced:

• Windsurf: https://windsurf.com/

• VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/

• JetBrains: https://www.jetbrains.com/

• Eclipse: https://eclipseide.org/

• Visual Studio: https://visualstudio.microsoft.com/

• Vim: https://www.vim.org/

• Emacs: https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/

• Lessons from a two-time unicorn builder, 50-time startup advisor, and 20-time company board member | Uri Levine (co-founder of Waze): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-uri-levine

• IntelliJ: https://www.jetbrains.com/idea/

• Julia: https://julialang.org/

• Parallel computing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_computing

• Douglas Chen on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/douglaspchen/

• Carlos Delatorre on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cadelatorre/

• MongoDB: https://www.mongodb.com/

• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

• GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot

• Llama: https://www.llama.com/

• Mistral: https://mistral.ai/

• Building Lovable: $10M ARR in 60 days with 15 people | Anton Osika (CEO and co-founder): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-lovable-anton-osika

• Inside Bolt: From near-death to ~$40m ARR in 5 months—one of the fastest-growing products in history | Eric Simons (founder & CEO of StackBlitz): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-bolt-eric-simons

• Behind the product: Replit | Amjad Masad (co-founder and CEO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/behind-the-product-replit-amjad-masad

• React: https://react.dev/

• Sonnet: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/sonnet

• OpenAI: https://openai.com/

• FedRamp: https://www.fedramp.gov/

• Dario Amodei on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei-3934934/

• Amdahl’s law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amdahl%27s_law

• How to win in the AI era: Ship a feature every week, embrace technical debt, ruthlessly cut scope, and create magic your competitors can't copy | Gaurav Misra (CEO and co-founder of Captions): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-win-in-the-ai-era-gaurav-misra

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Recommended book:

• Fall in Love with the Problem, Not the Solution: A Handbook for Entrepreneurs: https://www.amazon.com/Fall-Love-Problem-Solution-Entrepreneurs/dp/1637741987

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Guillermo Rauch is the founder and CEO of Vercel, creators of v0 (one of the most popular AI app building tools), and the mind behind foundational JavaScript frameworks like Next.js and Socket.io. An open source pioneer and legendary engineer, Guillermo has built tools that power some of the internet’s most innovative products, including Midjourney, Grok, and Notion. His mission is to democratize product creation, expanding the pool of potential builders from 5 million developers to over 100 million people worldwide.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

1. How AI will radically speed up product development—and the three critical skills PMs and engineers should master now to stay ahead

2. Why the future of building apps is shifting toward prompts instead of code, and how that affects traditional product teams

3. Specific ways to improve your design “taste,” plus practical tips to consistently create beautiful, user-loved products

4. How Guillermo built a powerful app in under two hours for $20 (while flying and using plane Wi-Fi) that would normally take weeks and thousands of dollars in engineering time

5. The exact strategies Vercel uses internally to leverage AI tools like v0 and Cursor, enabling their team of 600 to ship faster and better than ever before

6. Guillermo’s actionable advice on increasing your product quality through rapid iteration, real-world user feedback, and creating intentional “exposure hours” for your team

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• X: https://x.com/rauchg

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rauchg/

• Website: https://rauchg.com/

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• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Guillermo Rauch

(04:43) v0's mission

(07:03) The impact and growth of v0

(15:54) The future of product development with AI

(19:05) Empowering engineers and product builders

(24:01) Skills for the future: coding, math, and eloquence

(35:05) v0 in action: real-world applications

(36:40) Tips for using v0 effectively

(45:46) Core skills for building AI apps

(49:44) Live demo

(59:45) Understanding how AI thinks

(01:04:35) AI integration and future prospects

(01:07:22) Building taste

(01:13:43) Limitations of v0

(01:16:54) Improving the design of your product

(01:20:09) The secret to product quality

(01:22:35) Vercel’s AI-driven development

(01:25:43) Guillermo's vision for the future

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Referenced:

• v0: https://v0.dev/

• Vercel: https://vercel.com/

• GitHub: https://github.com/

• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

• Next.js Framework: https://nextjs.org/

• Claude: https://claude.ai/new

• Grok: https://x.ai/

• Midjourney: https://www.midjourney.com

• SocketIO: https://socket.io/

• Notion’s lost years, its near collapse during Covid, staying small to move fast, the joy and suffering of building horizontal, more | Ivan Zhao (CEO and co-founder): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-notion-ivan-zhao

• Notion: https://www.notion.com/

• Automattic: https://automattic.com/

• Inside Bolt: From near-death to ~$40m ARR in 5 months—one of the fastest-growing products in history | Eric Simons (founder & CEO of StackBlitz): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-bolt-eric-simons

• v0 Community: https://v0.dev/chat/community

• Figma: https://www.figma.com/

• Git Commit: https://www.atlassian.com/git/tutorials/saving-changes/git-commit

• What are Artifacts and how do I use them?: https://support.anthropic.com/en/articles/9487310-what-are-artifacts-and-how-do-i-use-them

• Design Engineering at Vercel: https://vercel.com/blog/design-engineering-at-vercel

• CSS: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSS

• Tailwind: https://tailwindcss.com/

• Wordcel / Shape Rotator / Mathcel: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wordcel-shape-rotator-mathcel

• Steve Jobs’s Ultimate Lesson for Companies: https://hbr.org/2011/08/steve-jobss-ultimate-lesson-fo

• Bloom Hackathon: https://bloom.build/

• Expenses Should Do Themselves | Saquon Barkley x Ramp (Super Bowl Ad): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1Tgsy7D0Jg

• Velocity over everything: How Ramp became the fastest-growing SaaS startup of all time | Geoff Charles (VP of Product): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/velocity-over-everything-how-ramp

• JavaScript: https://www.javascript.com/

• React: https://react.dev/

• Mapbox: https://www.mapbox.com/

• Leaflet: https://leafletjs.com/

• Escape hatches: https://react.dev/learn/escape-hatches

• Supreme: https://supreme.com/

• Shadcn: https://ui.shadcn.com/

• Charles Schwab: https://www.schwab.com/

• Fortune: https://fortune.com/

• Semafor: https://www.semafor.com/

• AI SDK: https://sdk.vercel.ai/

• DeepSeek: https://www.deepseek.com/

• Stripe: https://stripe.com/

• Vercel templates: https://vercel.com/templates

• GC AI: https://getgc.ai/

• OpenEvidence: https://www.openevidence.com/

• Paris Fashion Week: https://www.fhcm.paris/en/paris-fashion-week

• Guillermo’s post on X about making great products: https://x.com/rauchg/status/1887314115066274254

• Everybody Can Cook billboard: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/evilrabbit_activity-7242975574242037760-uRW9/

• Ratatouille: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0382932/

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Kevin Weil is the chief product officer at OpenAI, where he oversees the development of ChatGPT, enterprise products, and the OpenAI API. Prior to OpenAI, Kevin was head of product at Twitter, Instagram, and Planet, and was instrumental in the development of the Libra (later Novi) cryptocurrency project at Facebook.

In this episode, you’ll learn:

1. How OpenAI structures its product teams and maintains agility while developing cutting-edge AI

2. The power of model ensembles—using multiple specialized models together like a company of humans with different skills

3. Why writing effective evals (AI evaluation tests) is becoming a critical skill for product managers

4. The surprisingly enduring value of chat as an interface for AI, despite predictions of its obsolescence

5. How “vibe coding” is changing how companies operate

6. What OpenAI looks for when hiring product managers (hint: high agency and comfort with ambiguity)

7. “Model maximalism” and why today’s AI is the worst you’ll ever use again

8. Practical prompting techniques that improve AI interactions, including example-based prompting

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Where to find Kevin Weil:

• X: https://x.com/kevinweil

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinweil/

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Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Kevin’s background

(04:06) OpenAI’s new image model

(06:52) The role of chief product officer at OpenAI

(10:18) His recruitment story and joining OpenAI

(17:20) The importance of evals in AI

(24:59) Shipping quickly and consistently

(28:34) Product reviews and iterative deployment

(39:35) Chat as an interface for AI

(43:59) Collaboration between researchers and product teams

(46:41) Hiring product managers at OpenAI

(48:45) Embracing ambiguity in product management

(51:41) The role of AI in product teams

(53:21) Vibe coding and AI prototyping

(55:55) The future of product teams and fine-tuned models

(01:04:36) AI in education

(01:06:42) Optimism and concerns about AI’s future

(01:16:37) Reflections on the Libra project

(01:20:37) Lightning round and final thoughts

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Referenced:

• OpenAI: https://openai.com/

• The AI-Generated Studio Ghibli Trend, Explained: https://www.forbes.com/sites/danidiplacido/2025/03/27/the-ai-generated-studio-ghibli-trend-explained/

• Introducing 4o Image Generation: https://openai.com/index/introducing-4o-image-generation/

• Waymo: https://waymo.com/

• X: https://x.com

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/

• Planet: https://www.planet.com/

• Sam Altman on X: https://x.com/sama

• A conversation with OpenAI’s CPO Kevin Weil, Anthropic’s CPO Mike Krieger, and Sarah Guo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxkvVZua28k

• OpenAI evals: https://github.com/openai/evals

• Deep Research: https://openai.com/index/introducing-deep-research/

• Ev Williams on X: https://x.com/ev

• OpenAI API: https://platform.openai.com/docs/overview

• Dwight Eisenhower quote: https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/dwight_d_eisenhower_164720

• Inside Bolt: From near-death to ~$40m ARR in 5 months—one of the fastest-growing products in history | Eric Simons (founder & CEO of StackBlitz): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/inside-bolt-eric-simons

• StackBlitz: https://stackblitz.com/

• Claude 3.5 Sonnet: https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-3-5-sonnet

• Anthropic: https://www.anthropic.com/

• Four-minute mile: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four-minute_mile

• Chad: https://chatgpt.com/g/g-3F100ZiIe-chad-open-a-i

• Dario Amodei on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dario-amodei-3934934/

• Figma: https://www.figma.com/

• Julia Villagra on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/juliavillagra/

• Andrej Karpathy on X: https://x.com/karpathy

• Silicon Valley CEO says ‘vibe coding’ lets 10 engineers do the work of 100—here’s how to use it: https://fortune.com/2025/03/26/silicon-valley-ceo-says-vibe-coding-lets-10-engineers-do-the-work-of-100-heres-how-to-use-it/

• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

• Windsurf: https://codeium.com/windsurf

• GitHub Copilot: https://github.com/features/copilot

• Patrick Srail on X: https://x.com/patricksrail

• Khan Academy: https://www.khanacademy.org/

• CK-12 Education: https://www.ck12.org/

• Sora: https://openai.com/sora/

• Sam Altman’s post on X about creative writing: https://x.com/sama/status/1899535387435086115

• Diem (formerly known as Libra): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diem_(digital_currency)

• Novi: https://about.fb.com/news/2020/05/welcome-to-novi/

• David Marcus on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dmarcus/

• Peter Zeihan on X: https://x.com/PeterZeihan

• The Wheel of Time on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/Wheel-Time-Season-1/dp/B09F59CZ7R

• Top Gun: Maverick on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/Top-Gun-Maverick-Joseph-Kosinski/dp/B0DM2LYL8G

• Thinking like a gardener not a builder, organizing teams like slime mold, the adjacent possible, and other unconventional product advice | Alex Komoroske (Stripe, Google): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/unconventional-product-advice-alex-komoroske

• MySQL: https://www.mysql.com/

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Recommended books:

• Co-Intelligence: Living and Working with AI: https://www.amazon.com/Co-Intelligence-Living-Working-Ethan-Mollick/dp/059371671X

• The Accidental Superpower: Ten Years On: https://www.amazon.com/Accidental-Superpower-Ten-Years/dp/1538767341

• Cable Cowboy: https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Cowboy-Malone-Modern-Business/dp/047170637X

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Wes Kao is an entrepreneur, coach, and advisor. She co-founded the live learning platform Maven, backed by First Round and a16z. Before Maven, Wes co-created the altMBA with best-selling author Seth Godin. Today, Wes teaches a popular course on executive communication and influence. Through her course and one-on-one coaching, she’s helped thousands of operators, founders, and product leaders master the art of influence through clear, compelling communication. Known for her surgical writing style and no-BS frameworks, Wes returns to the pod to deliver a tactical master class on becoming a sharper, more persuasive communicator—at work, in meetings, and across your career.

What you’ll learn:

1. The #1 communication mistake leaders make—and Wes’s proven fix to instantly gain buy-in

2. Wes’s MOO (Most Obvious Objection) framework to consistently anticipate and overcome pushback in meetings

3. How to master concise communication—including Wes’s tactical approach for brevity without losing meaning

4. The art of executive presence: actionable strategies for conveying confidence and clarity, even under pressure

5. The “sales, then logistics” framework—and why your ideas keep getting ignored without it

6. The power of “signposting”—and why executives skim your docs without it

7. Exactly how to give feedback that works—Wes’s “strategy, not self-expression” principle to drive behavior change without friction

8. Practical ways to instantly improve your writing, emails, and Slack messages—simple techniques Wes teaches executives

9. Managing up like a pro: Wes’s clear, practical advice on earning trust, building credibility, and aligning with senior leaders

10. Career accelerators: specific habits and tactics from Wes for growing your influence, advancing your career, and standing out

11. Real-world communication examples—Wes breaks down real scenarios she’s solved, providing step-by-step solutions you can copy today

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• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/weskao/

• Website: https://www.weskao.com/

• Maven course: https://maven.com/wes-kao/executive-communication-influence

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• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Wes Kao

(05:34) Working with Wes

(06:58) The importance of communication

(10:44) Sales before logistics

(18:20) Being concise

(24:31) Books to help you become a better writer

(27:30) Signposting and formatting

(32:05) How to develop and practice your communication skills

(40:41) Slack communication

(42:23) Confidence in communication

(50:17) The MOO framework

(54:00) Staying calm in high-stakes conversations

(57:36) Which tactic to start with

(58:53) Effective tactics for managing up

(01:04:53) Giving constructive feedback: strategy, not self-expression

(01:09:39) Delegating effectively while maintaining high standards

(01:16:36) The swipe file: collecting inspiration for better communication

(01:19:59) Leveraging AI for better communication

(01:22:01) Lightning round

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Referenced:

• Persuasive communication and managing up | Wes Kao (Maven, Seth Godin, Section4): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/persuasive-communication-wes-kao

• Making Meta | Andrew ‘Boz’ Bosworth (CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/making-meta-andrew-boz-bosworth-cto

• Communication is the job: https://boz.com/articles/communication-is-the-job

• Maven: https://maven.com/

• Sales, not logistics: https://newsletter.weskao.com/p/sales-not-logistics

• How to be more concise: https://newsletter.weskao.com/p/how-to-be-concise

• Signposting: How to reduce cognitive load for your reader: https://newsletter.weskao.com/p/sign-posting-how-to-reduce-cognitive

• Airbnb’s Vlad Loktev on embracing chaos, inquiry over advocacy, poking the bear, and “impact, impact, impact” (Partner at Index Ventures, Airbnb GM/VP Product): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/impact-impact-impact-vlad-loktev

• Tone and words: Use accurate language: https://newsletter.weskao.com/p/tone-and-words-use-accurate-language

• Quote by Joan Didion: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/264509-i-don-t-know-what-i-think-until-i-write-it

• Strategy, not self-expression: How to decide what to say when giving feedback: https://newsletter.weskao.com/p/strategy-not-self-expression

• Tobi Lütke’s leadership playbook: Playing infinite games, operating from first principles, and maximizing human potential (founder and CEO of Shopify): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/tobi-lutkes-leadership-playbook

• The CEDAF framework: Delegating gets easier when you get better at explaining your ideas: https://newsletter.weskao.com/p/delegating-and-explaining

• Swipe file: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swipe_file

• Apple Notes: https://apps.apple.com/us/app/notes/id1110145109

• Claude: https://claude.ai/new

• ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/

• Arianna Huffington’s phone bed charging station (Oak): https://www.amazon.com/Arianna-Huffingtons-Phone-Charging-Station/dp/B079C5DBF4?th=1

• The Harlan Coben Collection on Netflix: https://www.netflix.com/browse/genre/81180221

• Oral-B Pro 1000 rechargeable electric toothbrush: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B003UKM9CO/

• The Best Electric Toothbrush: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-electric-toothbrush/

• Glengarry Glen Ross on Prime Video: https://www.amazon.com/Glengarry-Glen-Ross-James-Foley/dp/B002NN5F7A

• 1,000,000: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/1000000

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Recommended books:

• On Writing Well: The Classic Guide to Writing Nonfiction: https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Well-Classic-Guide-Nonfiction/dp/0060891548/

• Stein on Writing: A Master Editor of Some of the Most Successful Writers of Our Century Shares His Craft Techniques and Strategies: https://www.amazon.com/Stein-Writing-Successful-Techniques-Strategies/dp/0312254210/

• On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft: https://www.amazon.com/Writing-Memoir-Craft-Stephen-King/dp/1982159375

• Several Short Sentences About Writing: https://www.amazon.com/Several-Short-Sentences-About-Writing/dp/0307279413/

• High Output Management: https://www.amazon.com/High-Output-Management-Andrew-Grove/dp/0679762884

• Your Brain at Work: Strategies for Overcoming Distraction, Regaining Focus, and Working Smarter All Day Long: https://www.amazon.com/Your-Brain-Work-Revised-Updated/dp/0063003155/

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Ryan Singer is one of the earliest employees and the former Head of Strategy at 37signals (the makers of Basecamp), where he spent nearly two decades refining a product development approach that helped the company build super-successful products with small teams. Based on these lessons, he wrote "Shape Up: Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work that Matters," and Ryan now works with companies of all sizes to them them escape the cycle of endless sprints, missed deadlines, and dragging projects.

What you’ll learn:

1. Why traditional Agile and Scrum methods often lead teams into endless cycles of work without meaningful shipping milestones.

2. The “appetite-driven” approach to product development where teams set fixed timeboxes (usually six weeks maximum) and vary the scope instead of expanding timelines.

3. The exact process for running effective “shaping” sessions that collaboratively define projects before committing resources.

4. Why most teams struggle with too little detail in their planning, not too much.

5. Why a 30-to-50-person team size is the critical breaking point when growing startups need to adopt more structured processes.

6. Practical techniques for bridging the engineering-design divide by bringing technical and product perspectives together earlier in the process.

7. The powerful “breadboarding” and “fat marker sketching” techniques that help teams align on solutions without getting lost in high-fidelity details.

8. The clear warning signs that your current development process is failing before it’s too late to change course.

9. Proven strategies to implement Shape Up methods, whether you’re working in a startup or enterprise environment.

10. A step-by-step approach to transitioning from Scrum to Shape Up by piloting the methodology with a single team before broader implementation.

11. Why the PM role shifts upstream in Shape Up, focusing more on problem definition than project management.

12. How to adapt Shape Up principles to your company’s unique context, even if it’s nothing like Basecamp.

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Where to find Ryan Singer:

• X: https://x.com/rjs

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/feltpresence/

• Website: https://www.ryansinger.co/

• Course: https://www.ryansinger.co/srl/

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• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Ryan’s background

(04:38) The origins of Shape Up

(07:40) Implementing Shape Up in different companies

(09:56) How Shape Up is different

(19:02) The core elements of Shape Up

(26:29) Shaping sessions and timeboxing

(37:23) Flexible sprint planning

(38:56) The output of a shaping session

(46:57) Balancing detail and flexibility

(53:50) A deep dive into shaping sessions

(01:01:32) Fat marker sketches

(01:02:48) Getting started using Shape Up

(01:13:20) Signs it's time to try the Shape Up method

(01:18:25) Feature factories

(01:25:59) The role of the PM in Shape Up

(01:28:26) What makes Basecamp unique

(01:35:55) The second edition of the book

(01:38:30) Linking product strategy and shaping

(01:41:53) Conclusion and final thoughts

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Referenced:

• Basecamp: https://basecamp.com/

• David Heinemeier Hansson on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-heinemeier-hansson-374b18221/

• Jason Fried on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-fried/

• Jason Fried challenges your thinking on fundraising, goals, growth, and more: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/jason-fried-challenges-your-thinking

• Des Traynor on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/destraynor/

• Intercom: https://www.intercom.com/

• The ultimate guide to JTBD | Bob Moesta (co-creator of the framework): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-ultimate-guide-to-jtbd-bob-moesta

• How to find work you love | Bob Moesta (Jobs-to-be-Done co-creator, author of “Job Moves”): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-find-work-you-love-bob-moesta

• Scrum: https://www.scrum.org/

• 37signals: https://37signals.com/

• Jobs to Be Done Theory: https://www.christenseninstitute.org/theory/jobs-to-be-done/

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Recommended books:

• Shape Up: Stop Running in Circles and Ship Work That Matters: https://basecamp.com/shapeup

• Demand-Side Sales 101: Stop Selling and Help Your Customers Make Progress: https://www.amazon.com/Demand-Side-Sales-101-Customers-Progress/dp/1544509987/

• Competing Against Luck: The Story of Innovation and Customer Choice: https://www.amazon.com/Competing-Against-Luck-Innovation-Customer/dp/0062435612/

• Job Moves: 9 Steps for Making Progress in Your Career: https://www.amazon.com/Job-Moves-Making-Progress-Career/dp/0063283581

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Gaurav Misra is the co-founder and CEO of Captions, an AI-powered video creation company and one of the most successful consumer AI products in the world today. Previously he was a product leader at Snap, where he created the design engineering function and spent years helping develop features used by hundreds of millions of users worldwide. With a background in both engineering and design, Gaurav brings a unique cross-functional perspective to product development.

What you’ll learn:

1. Why the “ship a marketable feature every week” approach helps his team stay focused and the product stay top of mind for users amid constant AI breakthroughs

2. How to balance rapid shipping with maintaining quality by cutting scope rather than compromising on timelines

3. The “secret roadmap” strategy that helps Captions develop breakthrough features competitors never see coming

4. Why taking on strategic technical debt is essential for startups to outpace larger companies

5. How Captions accidentally ignored their most successful product for 1.5 years (and why it still grew to 500K users with no updates or support)

6. How Snap’s unique product development approach—with designers functioning as PMs—enabled their success as the last major social network to break through

7. Why AI video will transform marketing before other industries

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Where to find Gaurav Misra:

• X: https://x.com/gmharhar

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gamisra1/

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Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Gaurav’s background

(04:47) The exciting era of AI and startups

(09:30) Staying top of mind

(11:26) Tips for staying focused

(13:14) Shipping marketable features weekly

(19:03) Managing technical debt in startups

(25:31) Snap’s unique product development approach

(32:09) Brainstorming with AI

(35:09) What Snap got right

(41:06) Scaling with a small, agile team

(49:33) The shift toward prototyping in product management

(51:47) The product manager role

(55:40) Snap’s mission and product decisions

(01:02:13) The future of AI-generated video

(01:10:20) Leveraging AI for marketing

(01:14:37) Failure corner

(01:20:21) Lightning round and closing thoughts

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Referenced:

• Snap: https://www.snap.com/

• Captions: https://www.captions.ai/

• Iron Man on Disney+: https://www.disneyplus.com/movies/iron-man/6aM2a8mZATiu

• J.A.R.V.I.S.: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J.A.R.V.I.S.

• Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/

• Devin: https://devin.ai/

• Eye contact: https://www.captions.ai/eye-contact

• Nvidia: https://www.nvidia.com

• Descript: https://www.descript.com

• Evan Spiegel on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/evan-spiegel-8ab74034a/

• TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/

• Spotlight: https://www.snapchat.com/spotlight/

• Building product at Stripe: craft, metrics, and customer obsession | Jeff Weinstein (Product lead): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/building-product-at-stripe-jeff-weinstein

• Patrick Collison on X: https://x.com/patrickc

• DeepSeek: https://www.deepseek.com/

• ByteDance Goku: New video generation AI model, better than OpenAI Sora: https://medium.com/data-science-in-your-pocket/bytedance-goku-new-video-generation-ai-model-better-than-openai-sora-56c017a320a5

• Will Smith eating spaghetti and other weird AI benchmarks that took off in 2024: https://techcrunch.com/2024/12/31/will-smith-eating-spaghetti-and-other-weird-ai-benchmarks-that-took-off-in-2024/

• Silo on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/silo/umc.cmc.3yksgc857px0k0rqe5zd4jice

• Severance on AppleTV+: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/severance/umc.cmc.1srk2goyh2q2zdxcx605w8vtx

• Linear: https://linear.app/

• Superhuman: https://superhuman.com/

• Notion: https://www.notion.com

• Perplexity: https://www.perplexity.ai/

• OmniHuman-1 AI Video Generation Looks Too Real: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fY0KB516m-E

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Rahul Vohra is the founder and CEO of Superhuman. Prior to Superhuman, Rahul founded Rapportive, the first Gmail plug-in to scale to millions of users, which he sold to LinkedIn in 2012. He is also a prominent angel investor, and his fund has invested $50 million in over 120 companies, including Placer, Supabase, Mercury, Zip, ClassDojo, and Writer.

What you’ll learn:

• The unexpected insight about virality Rahul gained from LinkedIn’s head of growth.

• Why Rahul restructured his entire executive team to spend 60% to 70% of his time on product, design, and marketing instead of the typical CEO responsibilities.

• The counterintuitive approach to finding product-market fit using a methodical system inspired by Sean Ellis, and how this algorithmically determines your roadmap.

• How manually onboarding every user (Superhuman had 20 full-time people doing this at peak) created superfans and allowed engineers to focus on product rather than onboarding flows.

• The “Single Decisive Reason” framework for making better decisions by avoiding collections of weak justifications.

• How Superhuman’s AI features have evolved to create a truly intelligent email experience that works while you sleep.

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Where to find Rahul Vohra:

• X: https://x.com/rahulvohra

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rahulvohra/

• Email: [email protected]

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Where to find Lenny:

• Newsletter: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com

• X: https://twitter.com/lennysan

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lennyrachitsky/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Rahul and Superhuman

(05:00) The most pivotal moment in Rahul's career

(07:01) The secret to virality

(11:02) Superhuman’s product evolution and core values

(13:32) Overcoming slowdowns at scale

(18:06) Time management and meditation

(27:35) The role of a president

(30:56) Attention to detail

(43:00) Finding your unique position

(47:32) The power of manual onboarding

(52:37) Mastering product-market fit

(59:33) Game design in business software

(01:05:35) Contrarian pricing strategies

(01:09:29) Leveraging AI

(01:15:40) Transitioning to enterprise solutions

(01:19:08) The Single Decisive Reason framework

(01:22:32) Conclusion and final thoughts

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Referenced:

• Superhuman: https://superhuman.com/

• Rapportive: https://techcrunch.com/2012/02/22/rapportive-linkedin-acquisition/

• Elliot Shmukler on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eshmu/

• What Are ‘Whales’ in Video Games: https://gamerant.com/video-games-whales-concept-term-explained/

• Figma: https://www.figma.com/

• Notion: https://www.notion.com/

• Loom: https://www.loom.com/

• How to use Team Comments to reimagine email collaboration: https://blog.superhuman.com/how-to-use-team-comments-to-reimagine-email-collaboration/

• Rajiv Ayyangar’s post on X about Superhuman: https://x.com/rajivayyangar/status/1816176308130570385

• Transcendental Meditation: https://www.tm.org/

• Laurent Valosek on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/laurent-valosek-18708b5a/

• Peak Leadership Institute: https://www.peakleadershipinstitute.com/

• Ed Sim’s website: https://edsim.net/

• Adelle Sans: https://fonts.adobe.com/fonts/adelle-sans

• Comic Sans: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comic_Sans

• Greenfield project: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenfield_project

• Why Mailbox died: https://www.theverge.com/2015/12/8/9873268/why-dropbox-mailbox-shutdown

• Bill Trenchard on X: https://x.com/btrenchard

• How Superhuman Built an Engine to Find Product-Market Fit: https://review.firstround.com/how-superhuman-built-an-engine-to-find-product-market-fit/

• Using the Sean Ellis Test for Measuring Your Product-Market Fit: https://medium.productcoalition.com/using-sean-ellis-test-for-measuring-your-product-market-fit-c8ac98053c2c

• Sean Ellis on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/seanellis/

• The original growth hacker reveals his secrets | Sean Ellis (author of “Hacking Growth”): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-original-growth-hacker-sean-ellis

• The Trouble with Rewards: https://www.kornferry.com/insights/briefings-magazine/issue-13/519-the-trouble-with-rewards

• The art and science of pricing | Madhavan Ramanujam (Monetizing Innovation, Simon-Kucher): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/the-art-and-science-of-pricing-madhavan

•  Van Westendorp Price Sensitivity Meter: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_Westendorp%27s_Price_Sensitivity_Meter

• AI-powered email for high-performing teams: https://superhuman.com/ai

• Linear’s secret to building beloved B2B products | Nan Yu (Head of Product): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/linears-secret-to-building-beloved-b2b-products-nan-yu

• Single Decisive Reason: decision-making for fast-scaling startups: https://blog.superhuman.com/single-decisive-reason-decision-making-for-fast-scaling-startups/

• Reid Hoffman on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reidhoffman/

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Recommended books:

• Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind: https://www.amazon.com/Positioning-Battle-Your-Al-Ries/dp/0071373586

• Monetizing Innovation: How Smart Companies Design the Product Around the Price: https://www.amazon.com/Monetizing-Innovation-Companies-Design-Product/dp/1119240867

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Susan Cain, author of the groundbreaking bestseller Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking, shares a guide for how introverts can thrive in the workplace without sacrificing their authentic selves. Drawing from her extensive research and personal experience, Cain offers a powerful reframing: success doesn’t require becoming more extroverted—it demands becoming more fully yourself.

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What you’ll learn:

1. A simple definition of introversion and how it differs from shyness—plus a simple two-question test to determine where you fall on the spectrum

2. Five practical tactics introverts can use to be more successful in business while staying true to their natural temperament

3. How to handle challenging workplace scenarios like meetings dominated by loud voices and networking events that drain your energy

4. Specific strategies for managers and founders to create environments where introverted team members can contribute their best work

5. Practical techniques for saying no to energy-draining commitments

6. Strategies for managers to better support and leverage introverted team members

7. Practical advice for raising introverted children to help them develop confidence while honoring their natural temperament

8. Why seeking to become “more extroverted” is the wrong goal—and what to focus on instead to achieve professional success

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Where to find Susan Cain:

• X: https://x.com/susancain

• LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/susancain/

• Website: https://susancain.net/

• Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/susancainauthor/#

• Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/authorsusancain

• Substack: https://thequietlife.net/

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In this episode, we cover:

(00:00) Introduction to Susan Cain

(05:07) Understanding introversion

(08:55) The spectrum of introversion and extroversion

(13:27) Overcoming public speaking anxiety

(17:13) Learning to embrace your introverted self

(23:16) The power of leaning into your strengths

(24:36) Strategies for introverts to thrive in their career

(34:06) The importance of saying no

(38:35) What to do instead of networking

(41:59) Effective meeting participation for introverts

(47:31) Creating a productive work environment

(51:14) Raising an introverted child

(57:58) Finding the right career fit

(01:08:09) Lightning round and final thoughts

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Referenced:

• The power of introverts: https://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_the_power_of_introverts

• The hidden power of sad songs and rainy days: https://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_and_min_kym_the_hidden_power_of_sad_songs_and_rainy_days

• Why bittersweet emotions underscore life’s beauty: https://www.ted.com/talks/susan_cain_why_bittersweet_emotions_underscore_life_s_beauty

• Desensitization: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desensitization_(psychology)

• Malcolm Gladwell’s website: https://www.gladwellbooks.com/

• Warren Buffett on X: https://x.com/warrenbuffett

• Dale Carnegie speaking courses: https://www.dalecarnegie.com/en/presentation-skills-public-speaking-training

• Bill Gates on X: https://x.com/billgates

• Kathy Fish on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kathy-fish-23b5777/

• Why most public speaking advice is wrong—and how to finally overcome your speaking anxiety | Tristan de Montebello (CEO & co-founder of Ultraspeaking): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/master-public-speaking-tristan-de-montebello

• Ultraspeaking: https://ultraspeaking.com/lenny/

• Rethinking the Extraverted Sales Ideal: The Ambivert Advantage: https://faculty.wharton.upenn.edu/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/Grant_PsychScience2013.pdf

• Cutco: https://www.cutco.com/

• Tim Ferriss’s post about his new book: https://x.com/tferriss/status/1878936085033791817

•  Mihaly Csikszentmihalyi: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mihaly_Csikszentmihalyi

• Naval on X: https://x.com/naval

• On saying no: https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/how-to-say-no

• Susan Cain—How to Overcome Fear and Embrace Creativity: https://tim.blog/2019/01/24/susan-cain/

• Zigging vs. zagging: How HubSpot built a $30B company | Dharmesh Shah (co-founder/CTO): https://www.lennysnewsletter.com/p/lessons-from-30-years-of-building

• Renee Wood on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/recoale/

• The Sopranos on Max: https://play.max.com/show/818c3d9d-1831-48a6-9583-0364a7f98453

• The Talented Mr. Ripley on Prime Video: https://www.primevideo.com/detail/The-Talented-Mr-Ripley/0HA0GNFQ4ZXYPDNJHQEENK2Q6Q

• Tugboat Institute: https://www.tugboatinstitute.com/

• Leonard Cohen quote: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/4484-there-is-a-crack-in-everything-that-s-how-the-light

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Recommended books:

• Quiet: The Power of Introverts in a World That Can’t Stop Talking: https://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Power-Introverts-World-Talking/dp/0307352153

• Creativity: Flow and the Psychology of Discovery and Invention: https://www.amazon.com/Creativity-Flow-Psychology-Discovery-Invention/dp/0062283251

• Quiet Power: The Secret Strengths of Introverted Kids: https://www.amazon.com/Quiet-Power-Secret-Strengths-Introverted/dp/0147509920

• Gandhi: An Autobiography—The Story of My Experiments with Truth: https://www.amazon.com/Gandhi-Autobiography-Story-Experiments-Truth/dp/0807059099

• Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience: https://www.amazon.com/Flow-Psychology-Experience-Perennial-Classics/dp/0061339202

• The Power of Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Power-Myth-Joseph-Campbell/dp/0385418868/

• Bittersweet: How Sorrow and Longing Make Us Whole: https://www.amazon.com/Bittersweet-Oprahs-Book-Club-Longing/dp/0451499794

• Good Energy: The Surprising Connection Between Metabolism and Limitless Health: https://www.amazon.com/Good-Energy-Surprising-Connection-Metabolism/dp/0593712641

• The 5 Types of Wealth: A Transformative Guide to Design Your Dream Life: https://www.amazon.com/Types-Wealth-Transformative-Guide-Design/dp/059372318X

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