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The conversation examines military anthrax vaccine mandates and draws parallels to COVID-19 vaccine mandates.
"No Way Out" welcomes special co-host Matthew "Whiz" Buckley, host of the "No Fallen Heroes Max Afterburner" podcast, along with Tom "Buzz" Rempfer, to dissect the contentious issues surrounding vaccine mandates. Utilizing their backgrounds in fighter aviation and operational risk management, these former TOPGUNs explain how concepts like John Boyd's OODA loop have shaped their views on decision-making processes. Buzz also shares insights from his book "Unyielding: Marathons Against Illegal Mandates," where he exposes the alarming quality control issues he uncovered during his investigation into the anthrax vaccine program.
The discussion spans the historical and legal ramifications of the anthrax vaccine program, revealing how the military continued to mandate a problematic vaccine despite numerous adverse reactions and legal setbacks. Drawing parallels to the COVID-19 vaccine mandates, they delve into the origins of the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) law and its implications for public health and individual rights. Personal anecdotes from military personnel highlight the coercive tactics used to enforce vaccination, underscoring the critical need for lawful orders and informed consent within the military hierarchy.
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John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”
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John Boyd’s Conceptual Spiral was originally titled “No Way Out.” In his words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”Download a complete transcript of Conceptual Spiral for free by clicking here.
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The conversation examines military anthrax vaccine mandates and draws parallels to COVID-19 vaccine mandates.
"No Way Out" welcomes special co-host Matthew "Whiz" Buckley, host of the "No Fallen Heroes Max Afterburner" podcast, along with Tom "Buzz" Rempfer, to dissect the contentious issues surrounding vaccine mandates. Utilizing their backgrounds in fighter aviation and operational risk management, these former TOPGUNs explain how concepts like John Boyd's OODA loop have shaped their views on decision-making processes. Buzz also shares insights from his book "Unyielding: Marathons Against Illegal Mandates," where he exposes the alarming quality control issues he uncovered during his investigation into the anthrax vaccine program.
The discussion spans the historical and legal ramifications of the anthrax vaccine program, revealing how the military continued to mandate a problematic vaccine despite numerous adverse reactions and legal setbacks. Drawing parallels to the COVID-19 vaccine mandates, they delve into the origins of the Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) law and its implications for public health and individual rights. Personal anecdotes from military personnel highlight the coercive tactics used to enforce vaccination, underscoring the critical need for lawful orders and informed consent within the military hierarchy.
Thomas Rempfer on X
John R. Boyd's Conceptual Spiral was originally titled No Way Out. In his own words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”
A promotional message for Ember Health. Safe and effective IV ketamine care for individuals seeking relief from depression. Ember Health's evidence-based, partner-oriented, and patient-centered care model, boasting an 84% treatment success rate with 44% of patients reaching depression remission. It also mentions their extensive experience with over 40,000 infusions and treatment of more than 2,500 patients, including veterans, first responders, and individuals with anxiety and PTSD
John Boyd’s Conceptual Spiral was originally titled “No Way Out.” In his words:
“There is no way out unless we can eliminate the features just cited. Since we don’t know how to do this, we must continue the whirl of reorientation…”Download a complete transcript of Conceptual Spiral for free by clicking here.
Stay connected with No Way Out and The Whirl Of ReOrientation
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