In this episode Charles and Dan interview James "Rob" Phillips, long-time friend and mental health professional. We talk about his experience knowing and loving Charles (and Dan, to a lesser degree), as well as his experiences as a man, and a mental health professional. As we say multiple times during the episode, we all got a ton out of this one, and hope you will, too!

If you'd like to work with Rob, you can find his practice at https://aimcounselingflorida.com.

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