CW: This episode contains discussions of mental ill-health, chronic illness, and suicidality. If this raises any issues for you help is available 24/7 via Lifeline at https://www.lifeline.org.au/ or by calling 13 11 14, as well as Beyond Blue at 1300 224 636 or https://www.beyondblue.org.au.

At just 16 years old Lily Schubert got sick, eventually receiving a diagnosis of Myalgic Encephalomyelitis. She was forced to drop out of school and was bedbound for six years. Her condition worsened to the point that even small exposures to light, sound, or touch would cause severe crashes. As her symptoms started to improve, she started documenting her life on TikTok, with videos of her 'firsts' reaching millions of people around the world. Lily sits down with Abbie to talk about the reality of living with ME, what helped her get through her darkest days, and why she doesn't subscribe to the 'gratitude' narrative.

LINKS

• Follow Lily on TikTok @lilygschubert
• Follow Lily on Instagram @lilygschubert
• Lily's website http://lilyschubert.com/
• Read Lily's Substack https://substack.com/@lilyschubert
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CREDITS

Host: Abbie Chatfield @abbiechatfield

Guest: Lily Schubert @lilygschubert

Executive Producer and Editor: Amy Kimball @amy.kimball

It's A Lot Social Media Manager: Julia Toomey

Social Media and Marketing Strategist: Elizabeth Baxter

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