Lisa Nichols talks about finding the place where we meet and how she’s facilitating conversations around racial understanding and cultural awareness. I talk with her about the disruption and the feelings of discomfort that accompany the expansion of understanding and how we're move through this time. How one persons hurt doesn’t displace or discount another’s experience. About how do you enter the questions, how to hear the answers, where to do the research, and then how act appropriately?  We’ll talk about Colin Kaepernick and why it’s “Ok” for the NFL to bring him back now after two years of him being painted as disrespectful for his peaceful protest and defines what “Black Lives Matter” means.