Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

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Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture episodes

  • LITM Extra - Interview with Sharon Zukin [excerpt]

    This is a patrons-only episode. To hear the full interview, and many more episodes like it, go to Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.

    In this patrons-only episode Jeremy and Tim talk about New York City in the 1970s with writer and academic Sharon Zukin. Sharon is a Professor of Sociology, teaching at Brooklyn College and the Graduate Center, City University of New York, and the author of books including Loft Living: Culture and Capital in Urban Change, Landscapes of Power: From Detroit to Disney World, and Naked City: The Death and Life of Authentic Urban Places.

    In this interview, Jeremy and Tim ask Sharon both about her research and her experiences as a public sector worker in New York City in the 1970s. They discuss changing patterns of cooperative housing and loft living in downtown Manhattan, the social and economic circulation within and between these various neighbourhoods, and the problems loft living presented. They also talk about the visual art scenes of the East Village and Soho, the pursuit of professional art careers within these spaces, the role of gender and race in how these opportunities were presented, and the incorporation of the avant-garde into the American establishment.

    Tim, Jeremy and Sharon also discuss the work of David Harvey, Richard Nixon, suburbia, and scrutinise why the 1970s came to be so widely understood as a crisis decade.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.

    7 min
  • Stonewall and Beyond: Queering the New York Dance Floor pt.2

    Tim and Jeremy return from a mini winter break with a second episode looking at the music and politics of the Downtown queer dance floors of the early 70s. They interrogate the position of the Stonewall Riot in the history of queer culture, exploring many of the historiographical problems latent in the received accounts of this period and recontextualising the gay liberation movement of the time within a broader set of radical, anti-imperial demands.

    Tim and Jeremy also return to one of the most important clubs of the moment - the Sanctuary - and take a trip upstate to Fire Island Pines. Plus, Jem delivers a healthy dose of iconoclasm to a particularly beloved classic.    


    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.      

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    Tracklist:  
    Abaco Dream - Life & Death in G & A
    Gladys Knight and the Pips - Got Myself a Good Man  
    Marvin Gaye - What's Going On  
    Diana Ross and the Supremes - Ain't No Mountain High Enough

    1 hr 16 min
  • LITM Extra - Walter Gibbons pt.2 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear the whole thing, plus lectures on music and Marxism, Afrofuturism, Louis Vuitton, Fordism and more, become a patron by visiting Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    In this patrons-only episode Tim continues to read from and discuss his essay Disco Madness: Walter Gibbons and the Legacy of Turntablism and Remixology. We hear about developments in DJ technique in both the uptown Bronx and Downtown discotheque party scenes, including the many key tracks which crossed over between the two. Tim discusses the break, DJ Kool Herc's 'merry-go-round' spinning style and the differing musical demands of disco dancers and B-Boys.

    Tim also details Walter's studio craft, unpacking a number of his famous remixes, as well as his experiences cutting his live mixes to acetate.

    Read Tim's original article is here:

    https://www.timlawrence.info/articles2/2013/7/16/disco-madness-walter-gibbons-and-the-legacy-of-turntablism-and-remixology-journal-of-popular-music-studies-20-3-2008-276-329

    Tracklist:

    Benny Goodman & his Orchestra - Sing, Sing, Sing
    Freddie Perren - 2 Pigs and a Hog
    The Jimmy Castor Bunch - It's Just Begun
    Miroslav Vitous - New York City
    James Brown - Give It Up Or Turn It Loose
    Walter Gibbons - The Ten Commandments Are The Law Of The Land
    Kongas - Jungle
    Salsoul Orchestra - Salsoul Hustle
    Double Exposure - Ten Percent (Walter Gibbons Mix)
    Jakki - Sun... Sun... Sun... (Walter Gibbons Original 12" Edit)
    The Salsoul Orchestra - Salsoul 3001 (Walter Gibbons 12'' Original Mix)

    Compilations:

    Walter Gibbons - Jungle Music [Strut Records]
    Walter Gibbons - Mixed With Love (The Walter Gibbons Salsoul Anthology) [Suss'd Records]

    Books:

    David Toop - Rap Attack, The: African Jive to New York Hip Hop
    Peter Shapiro - Turn The Beat Around
    Mark Katz - Groove Music: The Art and Culture of the Hip-Hop DJ
    Nelson George - The Death of Rhythm and Blues

    13 min
  • LITM Extra - Christmas Special [excerpt]

    The is an excerpt from a patrons-only episode. To hear more, as well as many more episodes on Fordism, Afrofuturism, Walter Gibbons, Marx and more, become a patron by visiting Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    As we're in the dog days of December, we're happy to share with you: the LITM Christmas Special 2022. Tim and Jeremy have selected 9 records to form the basis of your alternative festive listening. We hear from show staples like the Salsoul Orchestra, Arthur Russell and Lee 'Scratch' Perry, some seasonal deep house, Senegalese monastic music and the Modern Jazz Quartet. We also discuss the relevance of the winter solstice, the proliferation of novelty records, what makes a gimmick, acid brass, glam rock, vibes and more...

    Thank you for all your support this year, it's been great to have you all along for the party. We'll be taking a short winter break, then the music is back on the platter early in January.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  


    Tracklist:
    Williams Fairey Brass Band - Voodoo Ray
    The Modern Jazz Quartet - England's Carol
    The Salsoul Orchestra - Christmas Medley
    Choeur des Moines de l'abbaye de Keur Moussa au Sénégal - Exulte, fille de Sion
    Blondie & Freddie - Yuletide Throw Down Rapture
    Lee 'Scratch' Perry - Merry Christmas (Happy New Year)
    Arthur Russell - In the Light of the Miracle
    Jerome Sydenham & Kerri Chandler - Winter's Blessing
    The Celestial Singers - Stand on the Word

    15 min
  • Over The Rainbow: Queering The New York Dance Floor pt.1

    In this week's episode Tim and Jeremy begin a three-part investigation into the music, politics and social practices of the downtown gay party scene in mid-70s New York City. The guys review the historiography of homosexual sexual activities, beginning with a refresher on Michel Foucault's analysis found in his History of Sexuality. Jeremy and Tim also cover Freud and the psychoanalytic account of sexuality (heavily critiqued by Foucault), broader questions around the creation of homosexual social identity, and how thinking around sexuality developed into the Fordist era.


    The episode also covers the Gay Liberation Front on both sides of the Atlantic, the influence of Feminism and Civil Rights on the GLF, the police, early 70s gay bar culture, the erasure of women in all this, Motown, jukeboxes, and Judy Garland. We end on the eve of the Stonewall Riot - in the next show, bricks get thrown.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.    

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    Tracklist:
    Judy Garland - Somewhere Over The Rainbow
    Little Richard - Good Golly Miss Molly
    The Temptations - Don't Let The Joneses Get You Down
    Diana Ross & The Supremes - No Matter What Sign You Are  

    Books:
    Michel Foucault - History of Sexuality

    1 hr 15 min
  • LITM Extra - Walter Gibbons pt.1 [excerpt]

    In this patrons-only episode Tim takes the long view on Walter Gibbons: DJ, remixer, break-juggler, born-again Christian and seminal character in the LITM story. In part one, we hear about Walter's early life, the techniques he developed to extend tracks when DJing, and his early experiments in reel-to-reel editing.


    Tim also discusses difficulties with disco historiography, misunderstandings about the relationship between Bronx-based Hip Hop and the Downtown party scene, and how connections between the two can be mediated by Walter himself.  

    This episode draws on Tim's article 'Disco Madness: Walter Gibbons and the Legacy of Turntablism and Remixology' from the Journal of Popular Music Studies. Read Tim's original article is here:

    https://www.timlawrence.info/articles2/2013/7/16/disco-madness-walter-gibbons-and-the-legacy-of-turntablism-and-remixology-journal-of-popular-music-studies-20-3-2008-276-329

    Tracklist:

    Strafe - Set It Off (Walter Gibbons Love Mix)
    Jimmy Bo Horne - Gimme Some (12" Mix)
    La Belle - Messin’ With My Mind
    Arthur Russell - School Bell / Tree House (Walter Gibbons Mix)
    
Bobby Byrd - Hot Pants

    Compilations:

    Walter Gibbons - Jungle Music [Strut Records]
    Walter Gibbons - Mixed With Love (The Walter Gibbons Salsoul Anthology) [Suss'd Records]

    Books:

    David Toop - Rap Attack, The: African Jive to New York Hip Hop
    Peter Shapiro - Turn The Beat Around
    Mark Katz - Groove Music: The Art and Culture of the Hip-Hop DJ
    Nelson George - The Death of Rhythm and Blues

    9 min
  • The 12" Single (Side B)

    In this week's episode Jeremy and Tim flip the record for Side B of our examination of the 12" single. The guys consider what was going on in Dub culture and the format in the mid-70s, talk dubplate spec, and give the proper meaning to the dub discomix. They consider the appealing acoustic qualities of the 12" record, situate SalSoul within the story, and consider when the 12" single could be judged to have truly established itself. Plus, Walter Gibbons.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  


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    Tracklist:

    The Jays and Ranking Trevor - Yaho
    Patti Jo - Make Me Believe In You
    Double Exposure - 10 Percent (Walter Gibbons Remix)
    Freddie Perren - 2 Pigs and a Hog
    Rare Earth - Happy Song
    Jermaine Jackson - Erucu
    Jacki - Sun, Sun, Sun

    1 hr 5 min
  • LITM Extra - What We're Listening To, November '22 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt from a patrons episode. To hear the full show, plus lectures on Fordism, Marxism and music, book readings, interviews and more, become a patron from £3pcm by visiting Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod


    In this patrons-only bonus episode, Jeremy and Tim have a conversation about what music has been on their turntables recently.

    Tim and Jeremy play and discuss Malian Blues-inflected modern psychedelia, uncover devotional south Indian classical music, and try to pin down what Prog House is meant to mean. They select another slice of excellent contemporary ambience from show favourites International Anthem, introduce a new Afro House bootleg through Radio Mundo, and tie back to the main series with a new Walter Gibbons release. Plus, sunrise on Mount Sinai.

    This is part of a rough series of more conversational, unplanned episodes reflecting on what's been on our record players recently and what we've been up to that we'll be releasing to patrons to say thank you for your support.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.

    Be sure to visit our new website athttps://www.loveisthemessagepod.co.uk/

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    Tracklist:

    Vieux Farka Toure and Khruangbin - Savanne

    Bombay S Jayashri - Kalimaheshwari
    Photay with Carlos Niño - Change
    Jorja Smith - Rose Rouge
    Roy Ayers - Liquid Love
    Greg Foat - Electric Dreams pt.2
    Andronicus - Make You Whole
    Radio Mundo - Garango
    Kerri Chandler - Kaiku (Disco Version)
    Walter Gibbons - The Ten Commandments Are the Law of the Land

    10 min
  • The 12" Single (Side A)

    A major technological innovation to emerge from the milieu of NYC 1975 was the 12" single. In this episode, Jeremy and Tim uncover the demands of dancers and DJs in the discos for longer tracks, the precursors found in acid rock and Bob Dylan, and tell the story of individual releases that presaged widespread adoption of the 12" format.

    Tim and Jeremy also talk album aesthetics, the Penny Lane / Strawberry Fields double A side, nascent remix culture, the importance of wide grooves, and return to a recurring character of the show: Tom Moulton.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.    


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    Tracklist:

    Rare Earth - Get Ready
    Eddie Palmieri - Una Dia Bonito
    Leon Russell - It's A Hard Rain Gonna Fall
    Don Downing - Dream World
    Al Downing - I'll Be Holding On (Disco Mix)
    Calhoon - (Do You Wanna) Dance Dance Dance
    Bobby Moore - (Call Me Your) Anything Man
    South Shore Commission - Free Man (Tom Moulton Mix)

    1 hr 5 min
  • LITM Extra - Music and Marxism pt.2 [excerpt]

    This is a excerpt of a patrons-only episode. To become a patron from just £3pcm, visit Patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.

    In the concluding episode of the mini-series, Jeremy completes his account of those Marxist academics and thinkers whose work either makes reference to music or can be brought to bear on it. Picking up in the 1950s, we hear about ways of understanding music's autonomous capacity to affect people's bodies and make them feel, desublimation, Structuralism and it's descendents, and vibe. Jeremy touches on the writing of Bloch, Marcuse, Freud, Barthes and Kristeva, as well as staples of the show Deleuze and Guattari. We hear about the 'grain' of the voice, the difference between the meaning and the material aspects of song, and finally return to the big question: what drives historical change?

    Tracklist:

    Pete Seeger - Which Side Are You On?

    Ewan McColl & Peggy Seeger - The Shoals of Herring
    The Grateful Dead - Birdsong

    Books, articles etc:

    #ACFM Podcast on folk music: https://novaramedia.com/2021/05/08/acfm-microdose-jeremy-gilbert-on-folk-music/

    Ernst Bloch - The Spirit of Utopia
    Herbert Marcuse - One Dimensional Man
    Herbert Marcuse - Eros and Civilisation
    Sigmund Freud - Civilization and its Discontents
    Roland Barthes - Mythologies
    Roland Barthes - The Grain of the Voice
    Julia Kristeva - Revolutions in Poetic Language
    Deleuze & Guattari - Anti-Oedipus
    Deleuze & Guattari - A Thousand Plateaus
    Jeremy Gilbert - 'Becoming Music: The Rhizomatic Moment of Improvisation’ in Deleuze and Music Buchanan & Swiboda (Eds)
    Jaques Attali - Noise

    13 min

About Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

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Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers.

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