Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

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Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture episodes

  • Invention, Radicalism and the Popular Imagination '68 -'75: Brazil pt.3

    In this week's podcast Tim and Jeremy complete their three-parter on Brazil, looking at music in the country from 1968 - 1975. Against a backdrop of managed democracy, repression and censorship for musicians, we hear about a number of exciting artists who combined inventive experimental radicalism with a popular imagination to create electrifying music. Jeremy and Tim introduce Fusion groups like Azymuth and Aitro, totemic Brazilian singers like Astrud Gilberto, and the incredible output of Jorge Ben.

    Tim and Jeremy also discuss varying psychedelic aesthetics in the country and internationally, including the contrast between indigenous practices and the classical countercultural LSD scene; spent time on the place of reissuing culture of contemporary labels like Mr Bongo; and disagree over how we should listen to music with explicitly religious lyrics. Plus, Pelé!


    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  

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    Tracklist:

    Pedros Santos - Água Viva

    Astrud Gilberto - Beginnings
    Jorge Ben - Take It Easy My Brother Charles
    Claudia - Jesus Christo
    Airto - Return to Forever
    Novos Baianos - Preta, Pretinha
    Tribo Massahi - Fareuá
    Sivuca - Ain't No Sunshine
    Gal Costa - Milho Verdé
    Azymuth - Periscopio

    1 hr 25 min
  • Tropicália: Brazil pt.2

    In this week's podcast Jeremy and Tim continue with the second of three episodes evaluating Brazilian music from 1965-1975 as they turn their attention to Tropicalia. We hear about the origins of Tropicalia, or Tropicalismo, set against the turbulent political climate and eventual military coup of the country in the mid-'60s. Via music from the Gilberto Gil, Tom Zé, Caetano Veloso and more, Tim and Jeremy show how the genre articulated an aesthetic of 'cannibalism' consonant with Brazil's multiplicity and cultural fluidity, but also how it leaned heavily on Anglophone psychedelic rock and vague trends and styles of the Counterculture for much of its inspiration.

    Tim and Jeremy problematise the period of Tropicalia, asking questions of its political valiancy, discuss whether it was actually radical or should be understood instead as an expression of liberal modernity, and examine the movement's rejection of paternalism in keeping with other youth scenes internationally.


    Join us next time for the final part of this series-within-a-series, as we move to the Seventies to discover some truly astounding music.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  


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    Tracklist:

    Caetano Veloso - Tropicália
    Gilberto Gil - Domingo No Parque 
    Gal Costa - Mamãe, Coragem
    Tom Zé - Gloria
    Os Mutantes - Panis Et Circenses

    Books:

    Naomi Klein - The Shock Doctrine: The Rise of Disaster Capitalism
    Gilberto Freyre - The Masters and the Slaves
    Roberto Schwarz on Caetano Veloso, New Left Review: https://newleftreview.org/issues/ii75/articles/roberto-schwarz-political-iridescence

    1 hr 17 min
  • Samba and the New Beat: Brazil pt.1

    In this week's podcast Tim and Jeremy begin a multi-show examination of the music of Brazil in the Twentieth Century, starting in part one with the emergence of Samba in the late 1920s, Bossa Nova, and the first shoots of what would become Tropicalia. We hear about the complex and hybrid makeup of the nation, considering its Indigenous, African and European sources, and the role of slavery and colonialism on the vast nation.

    Tim and Jeremy talk about how music, and especially Samba, was used to cohere a new idea of Brazilian-ness, mobilised to express and represent a new national identity. We learn about new instruments like the cuica and surdo, and end with the introduction of a titan of Brazilian music, Jorge Ben. 

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    Tracklist:

    Almirante & o Bando de Tangarás - Na Pavuna
    Ary Barosso - Aquarela Do Brasil
    Geraldo Pereira - Cabritada Mal Sucedida
    João Gilberto - Bim Bom
    Luiz Bonfá - Manhã De Carnaval
    Stan Getz & Joao Gilberto - The Girl From Ipanema
    Bola Sete And His New Brazillian Trio - Soul Samba
    Jorge Ben - Más Que Nada
    Jorge Ben - Rosa Más Que Nada

    Books:

    Bryan McCann - Hello, Hello Brazil: Popular Music in the Making of Modern Brazil
    Gilberto Freyre - The Masters and the Slaves

    1 hr 3 min
  • LITM Extra - 'What We're Listening To' June '22 [extract]

    This is an excerpt of a full length episode currently only available to patrons. To become a patron and support what we're doing from £3 per month, head to www.patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    In this patrons-only bonus episode, Jeremy and Tim have a conversation about what music has been on their turntables recently.  Jeremy brings a pair of Indian compositions from very different ends of the musical spectrum: a steel strung guitar played like a sitar, and one of ten famous 'ragas to a disco beat'. Joining the dots between Indian Classical, '60s American fingerpickers and today, we also hear a new-ish release on show favourite International Anthem from reformed Post-Rocker Jeff Parker, and tuck into some 2010s electronic Afro-Disco from London's Ibibio Sound Machine.

    Tim shares a number of new discoveries, including the riotous contemporary Ghanian gospel of Alotgté Oho and a deeply psychedelic dancefloor freakout from Nico Gomez. We end with the new release from our friends at Beauty and the Beat, a tried-and-tested remix from our friend Kay Suzuki of some fantastic Guadalupian Gwoka.  


    This is part of a rough series of more conversational, unplanned episodes reflecting on what's been on our record players recently and what we've been up to that we'll be releasing to patrons to say thank you for your support.  

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  

    The tracks discussed are: Jeff Parker - Four Folks
    Vishwa Mohan Bhatt - Raag Bageshree
    Don Cherry - Om Shanti Om
    Alogté Oho - Doose Mam
    Ibibio Sound Machine - The Talking Fish
    Nico Gomez and His Afro Percussion Inc. - Baila Chibiquiban
    Charanjit Singh - Raga Bhairav
    Gaoulé Mizik - A Ka Titine (Kay Suzuki Gwoka Dub)  

    Order your copy of Excursions in Gwoka vol . 1 from Beauty and the Beat here: https://beautyandthebeat1.bandcamp.com/album/excursions-in-gwoka-vol-1-batb-005

    8 min
  • LITM Extra - Decolonising Disco—Counterculture, Postindustrial Creativity, the 1970s Dance Floor and Disco pt.2 [excerpt]

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    In this patrons-only episode Tim concludes reading from his essay Decolonising Disco—Counterculture, Postindustrial Creativity, the 1970s Dance Floor and Disco, published recently in the collection Global Dance Cultures in the 1970s and 1980s: Disco Heterotopias, edited by Flora Pitrolo and Marko Zubak.  Picking up where he left off in part 1, Tim introduces us to Sylvere Lotringer, the French critic who straddled both the worlds of academic Post-Structuralism and the Downtown NYC scene, itself a 'heterotopic' formation (after Foucault). We hear about the hybridity and convergence of the city's overlapping scenes in the early '80s, embodied by musicians like Arthur Russell, before the AIDS and Crack crises, Reaganomics and shifts in the art world caused this exciting collectivism to give way to more individualist modes of creation and production.

    In the final part of the essay, Tim shows how music from Africa, Latin America and Europe was a central component of what he calls 'Discotheque music' (ie records you would hear on the DJ-led dancefloors) which produced the original disco sound. With reference to SalSoul, Saturday Night Fever, Nigerian disco, contemporary reissue labels and more, Tim makes the case for these non-American, largely non-white musics to be included in an expanded edition of the disco archive. Lots of great musical examples are used in this show to illustrate the essay.

    Tracklist:

    The B52s - Rock Lobster
    The Peech Boys - Don't Make Me Wait
    Public Enemy - Public Enemy Number 1
    Fela Kuti - Shakara
    The Lafayette Afro Rock Band - Djungi
    Black Blood - A. I. E. (A Mwana)
    Tony Allen with Africa 70 - Afrodisco Beat
    Orlando Julius - Disco Hi-Life
    King Sunny Adé - 365 is My Number / The Message
    N'draman Blintch - Cosmic Sounds
    Khalab ft. Tenesha The Wordsmith - Black Noise

    12 min
  • Small Islands of the Caribbean - Trinidad, Guadalupe and Haiti

    In this week's podcast Jeremy and Tim turn their atteniton to the musical cultures of 1965-1975 on some of the smaller islands of the Caribbean: Trinidad, Guadalupe and Haiti. We hear about Trinidad's particular combination of Afro-diasporic and South Asian populations during Imperial rule, how Calypso mediated the island's relationship to the British Empire, the emergence of the steel pans on the island in the face of persecution, and how American Soul influences gave rise of Soca.

    Tim and Jeremy also discuss the archipelago of Guadaloupe - not a country but a department of France - and it's two great Twentieth Century musics, Zouk and Gwaka. They discuss the history of Haiti, from its successful slave revolt to the many political pressures its suffered subsequently, and it's Compas music, along with the particularities of the spiritual practice of Voodoo on the island. Plus, cricket lovely cricket!

    Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert are authors, academics, DJs and audiophile dance party organisers. They’ve been friends and collaborators since 1997, teaching together and running parties since 2003. With clubs closed and half their jobs lost to university cuts, they’re inevitably launching a podcast.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  

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    Tracklist:

    Trinidad All-Star Percussion Band - Excerpt from British news reel
    Lord Kitchener - London is the Place for Me
    Lord Kitchener - Black Power
    Lord Kitchener - Victory Calypso
    Lord Shorty - Soul Calypso
    Lord Shorty - Indrani
    Les Vikings de la Guadeloupe - Assez Palé
    Exile One - One Favor
    Ensemble Aux Calebasses De Nemours Jean Baptiste - Donnez moi La Main
    Shleu-Shleu - Ceremonie Loa

    You can find friend of the show Cedric Lassonde's compilation of Gwoka Moderne, Lèspri Ka: New Directions in Gwoka Music from Guadeloupe 1981-2010, here: https://timecapsulespace.bandcamp.com/album/l-spri-ka-new-directions-in-gwoka-music-from-guadeloupe-1981-2010

    Books:

    CLR James - The Black Jacobins

    1 hr 8 min
  • LITM Extra - Decolonising Disco—Counterculture, Postindustrial Creativity, the 1970s Dance Floor and Disco pt.1 [excerpt]

    This is an excerpt of a full length episode currently only available to patrons. To become a patron and support what we're doing from £3 per month, head to www.patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    In this patrons-only episode Tim reads from his essay Decolonising Disco—Counterculture, Postindustrial Creativity, the 1970s Dance Floor and Disco, published recently in the collection Global Dance Cultures in the 1970s and 1980s : Disco Heterotopias, edited by Flora Pitrolo and Marko Zubak. Drawing together arguments from all three of Tim's books covering the party culture of the 1970s and early 1980s, the piece re-historises the so-called 'genre wars' of Disco, Punk and Hip Hop / Rap to better represent the fluidity between these scenes and musics as part of a city-wide music culture.

    Tim continues to assert this radical creative potential of  the post-Fordist conjuncture in '70s music culture, and concludes by asking: what happened to the influence of music from the Global South on Disco; how did Disco go from the fringes of US culture to becoming a colonializing force itself; and how might we begin decolonialising Disco?

    We've split the essay into two halves, with part two to follow in a fortnight.


    Edited and produced by Matt Huxley.

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    Tracklist:

    Cristina - Disco Clone

    The Salsoul Orchestra - You're Just The Right Size
    The Pointer Sisters - Yes We Can Can
    Booker T and the MG's - Melting Pot
    James Brown - Give It Or Turn It Loose
    Dinosaur - Kiss Me Again
    The New York Dolls - Personality Crisis

    Books:

    Tim Lawrence - Love Saves The Day: A History of American Dance Culture, 1970-1979

    Tim Lawrence - Life and Death on the New York Dance Floor, 1980-1983
    Tim Lawrence - Hold on to Your Dreams: Arthur Russell and the Downtown Music Scene, 1973-1992
    David Harvey - A Brief History of Neoliberalism
    Anthony Haden-Guest - The Last Party: Studio 54, Disco, and the Culture of the Night
    Simon Reynolds - Rip It Up and Start Again
    Nelson George - The Death of Rhythm and Blues

    9 min
  • LITM Extra - Heavy Dub Theory pt.3

    This is an excerpt of a full length episode currently only available to patrons. To become a patron and support what we're doing from £3 per month, head to www.patreon.com/LoveMessagePod.


    In this patrons-only episode, Jeremy and Tim conclude their mini-series ‘Heavy Dub Theory’ (for now). They talk about the work of the French radical philosophers Gilles Deleuze and Felix Guattari, introducing three of their key concepts: the molar and the molecular; deterritorialisation and deterritorialisation; and the refrain. We then hear how these philosophical analytical ideas can be applied to Dub.

    Later in the episode we consider the changing role of the producer in Dub and the ways in which this problematised authorship; contrast dub riddims with NYC remix culture, and finally ask whether dub and reggae can be thought of as truly psychedelic musics.

    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.

    Tracklist:


    Sound Dimension - Real Rock
    Bounty Killer - Roots, Reality and Culture
    Modern Romance - Salsa Rappsody (Dub Discomix)
    Lee ‘Scratch’ Perry - Bed Jamming
    Disco Dub Band - For the Love of Money

    7 min
  • Music in the Cuban Revolution

    In this week's episode Jeremy and Tim travel to New Years Day 1959 as Che Guevara's forces defeat Batista to complete the Cuban Revolution. We hear about the military embargo imposed by the USA on their island neighbour, its impact on life for musicians on both sides of the border, and is resonances with American foreign policy in Latin America more broadly.


    Tim and Jeremy also consider the nationalisation of the Cuban record industry, the pros and cons of state sponsorship on music creation, and how Communists across the world have addressed the problem of vernacular popular music's status within the culture industry. Plus, the Cha Cha Cha source of a foundational piece of Garage Rock, the Bay of Pigs, and why cymbals were banned for being 'too jazzy'.

    Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert are authors, academics, DJs and audiophile dance party organisers. They’ve been friends and collaborators since 1997, teaching together and running parties since 2003. With clubs closed and half their jobs lost to university cuts, they’re inevitably launching a podcast.


    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  

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    Tracklist:
    Cuarteto D' Aida - Yo Si Tumbo Caña
    The Kings Men - Louie Louie
    René Touzet - El Loco Cha Cha Cha
    Orquesta Cubana de Música Moderna - The Man I Love
    Irakere - Bacalao Con Pan
    Grupo De Experimentación Sonora Del ICAIC - Granma
    Los Van Van - Chirrin, Chirran

    Books:

    Timothy Brennan - Secular Devotion: Afro-Latin Music and Imperial Jazz
    Ned Sublette - Cuba and its Music

    1 hr 22 min
  • Pre-Revolutionary Cuba

    In this week's episode we move away from Jamaica across the Caribbean Sea to Cuba. To explain the theological precursors to modern Cuba, Jeremy and Tim start with the history of slavery on the island and the influences of Congolese and Uruban religious and musical practices the trafficked people brought with them. We hear about pantheism, master drummers and a musical culture centered around danced devotional rituals where percussion was key.


    Later in the show we cover Batista's brutal takeover of the island, the emerging links between Cuban and New York musicians, Rhumba, and the phenomenal popularity of Mambo. Join us next week, where revolution's in the air.

    Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert are authors, academics, DJs and audiophile dance party organisers. They’ve been friends and collaborators since 1997, teaching together and running parties since 2003. With clubs closed and half their jobs lost to university cuts, they’re inevitably launching a podcast.


    Produced and edited by Matt Huxley.  

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    Become a patron from as little as £3pcm by visiting www.patreon.com/LoveMessagePod

    Tracklist:

    Grupo Oba-Ilú - Oshún

    Conjunto Kubavana de Alberto Ruiz - Rumba en el Patio
    Afro-Cubans - Sopa de Pichon
    Afro-Cubans - Tanga
    Dizzy Gillespie & Chano Pozo - Manteca
    Perez Prado - Cherry Pink and Apple Blossom White
    Tito Puente - Night Ritual
    Rolando Aguiló - Descarga Roja

    Books:

    Ned Sublette - Cuba and its Music
    Timothy Brennan - Secular Devotion: Afro-Latin Music and Imperial Jazz

    1 hr 4 min

About Love is the Message: Dance, Music and Counterculture

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Love is the Message: Music, Dance & Counterculture is a new show from Tim Lawrence and Jeremy Gilbert, both of them authors, academics, DJs and dance party organisers.

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