On this week’s show, Mac DeMarco sits down with Neil Finn (Crowded House, Split Enz, Fleetwood Mac) and Liam Finn on the occasion of the father and son’s new LP Lightsleeper. Their chat took place in Mac’s Los Angeles garage studio (he's gone full Marc Maron!), and covered a lot. We hear about the artistic freedoms and constraints that Mac experiences; the pluses and minuses of falling in love with one’s demos; Neil’s shopping trip with Mick Fleetwood; why hiring a dominatrix can really help the recording process; and so much more.

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This episode was recorded by Ali Nikou in LA and Mark Yoshizumi at Hook and Fade Studios in Brooklyn. It was co-produced by Mark Yoshizumi.

The Talkhouse Podcast’s theme song was composed and performed by The Range.