Making the Fan

Making the Fan

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Making the Fan episodes

  • How Maryland Created 'Netflix for Terps'

    This week's guest is Mike Farrell, Assistant AD for Broadcasting and Video Production at University of Maryland.  As part of Maryland's 75-year Terrapin Club "Reinvented" campaign, Mike and his team created Terrapin Club +.  Often referred to as "Netflix for Terps", the subscription service is the first of its kind in college athletics and features five shows to create additional value for Terrapin Club members and share the stories of Maryland current and former student-athletes. 

    We go in-depth on content strategies and deepening ties with your tribes in this episode.

    6:30  Terrapin Club “Reinvented” and Terrapin Club +

    8:17 Creating Membership Value Over Donor Programs

    11:10 Biggest Production Surprises and Challenges

    14:56 The Student-Athlete Perspective

    16:30 Content Strategy and Distribution Strategy

    25:06 Authenticity vs. Production Quality

    28:08 Diving in on the Terrapin Club + Five Series

    38:11 The NIL Impact

    43:30 Measuring Success

    47:46 Maryland’s Sources of Inspiration

    50:24 Rapid Fire Questions

         Books Inspiring Mike

         A Life-Changing Perspective

         Mike’s Billboard

    *SLIGHT CORRECTION* - Since the launch of Terrapin Club +, the Terrapin Club has seen a 100% year-over-year growth, rather than the 100% growth mentioned in the show.

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    Check out  Terrapin Club+   |  YouTube

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    Twitter  |  Instagram

    Additional References
    Errol Morris Documentaries

    Michael’s Favorite Books
    This is Not a T-Shirt by Bobby Hundreds
    Winning the Story Wars by Jonah Sachs
    True Story by Ty Montague

    Shout out to all those who produce and support Terrapin Club + 

    Haley Timple, Jonah Haas, Tony Price, Jarred Belman, John Bartman, Josh Clayton, Alex Gross, Thomas Mason, Jason Yellin, Patrick Fischer, Taylor Smyth, Jordan Looby, Brian Ullmann, Carrie Blankenship, Kendall Butters, Jake Rose, Andy Wray, Alex Grant

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    59 min
  • Syncing Data, Tech and Social Listening with EarBuds CEO Jason Fox

    Today’s guest is Jason Fox.  After 6 years in the NFL with the Detroit Lions and Miami Dolphins, Jason launched EarBuds in 2018.  What started as a platform to facilitate consumers and fans being able to listen to the same playlists as their favorite athletes in real-time has morphed into a new social listening experience through EarBuds’ partnerships with Amazon Music, Apple Music, Pandora and Spotify.

    This episode covers everything from sports tech, data, exclusive fan experiences, entrepreneurship and digital social engagement.  


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    Show Notes

    5:26   The Genesis of EarBuds

    7:23   Personalizing the Listening Experience in Real Time

    9:07   Expanding Fandoms and Creating Community through Music

    12:25   What’s Best for the End User? Uniting the Major Music Players 

    16:27   Greatest Lessons in Launching EarBuds 

    19:17   Overcoming Imposter Syndrome in Entrepreneurship

    23:26   EarBuds’ Partnership with Fan Controlled Football

    25:13   Digging Deep into Data and Unexpected Audiences 

    35:47   What’s Next for EarBuds

    39:08   Digital Engagement and Social Tokens

    46:12   Jason’s Billboard

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    55 min
  • How to Cultivate SUPER Fans with Brittany Hodak

    Joining the show this week is Brittany Hodak.  Recently named Chief Experience Officer at Experience.com, Brittany shares her frameworks that organizations can adopt to cultivate super fans and experiences.  Prior to joining Experience.com, Brittany co-founded a marketing and collectibles company ZinePak (later named The Superfan Company), which was featured on Shark Tank and earned one of the highest valuations in show history.   She exited in 2019 to focus full-time on speaking and consulting with organizations to harness the passion within fans.

    David and Brittany set their rivalry aside to dive in to Brittany's SUPER strategy and focusing on real-time data to perfect customer and employee experience.

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    6:03    MGo(Baby)Blue - Coach Harbaugh Converts a Razorback

    13:22  The ZinePak/Superfan Company Takeaways

    19:02  The Future of Collectibles

    22:32  Brittany’s SUPER strategy

    26:39  What is special about your story?

    28:10  Fostering Future Fans & Connecting to Kids

    31:08  Tailoring Campaigns to Niche Audiences

    33:47  Overcoming Apathetic Fans

    42:53  Personalizing Customer and Employee Experiences with Experience.com

    46:53  The Uber Way - Data in Real Time


    Additional Resources

    BrittanyHodak.com

    Experience.com

    Beach Boys’ 50th Anniversary Collectible | Dolly Parton’s Pure & Simple Album 

    Dolly's Imagination Library

    More from Brittany

    The ABCs of Creating Superfans

    The Superfans System

    The Superfan W.A.V.E. eBook


    Connect with Brittany

    [email protected]

    Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn

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    56 min
  • High Speed, High Tech and High Growth with DRL President Rachel Jacobson

    Rachel Jacobson is the President of the Drone Racing League.  After 21 years in the NBA, her last role being VP of Global Business Development, and a brief stint in the private sector, Rachel was named president of DRL just one year ago. 

    DRL is a technology company first and the decisions they make from a business, employee and customer experience standpoint are all from a technology perspective, because of the outreach it enables with both traditional and non-traditional sports fans who have embraced their organization. 

    We touch on everything from leadership and culture, to making decisions that serve the holistic customer and bringing new fans into their ecosystem.

    Show Notes

    6:34     Lessons from a 21-Year NBA Career

    9:57     It’s All About YOUR People

    12:44   Encouraging a Culture of High Performance 

    14:58   Accountability and Transparency in Leadership

    15:40   Hustle in Sports vs. Hustle in Entrepreneurship

    20:36  What is the Drone Racing League?

    25:14   Appealing to Younger Fans through STEM

    28:35   Bringing Multigenerational Fans into the DRL Ecosystem

    36:26   DRL’s Player-to-Pilot Training Program

    40:42   Aligning Mentality and Markets in Corporate Partnerships

    46:49   Rapid Fire Questions

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    Additional Notes

    Drone Racing League
    DRL Academy
    T-Mobile 5G Drone
    Playstation Drone Racing Simulator 

    Follow DRL:  Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | TikTok | YouTube | LinkedIn

    Connect with Rachel:  LinkedIn | Twitter

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    52 min
  • Building Athlete Brands and Priming for NIL with Jim Cavale

    Jim Cavale is the Founder and CEO of INFLCR.  With NIL legislation set to go into effect this summer, college athletic departments face so many unknowns. Jim and his team recently launched INFLCR Verified and INFLCR Plus, initiatives to help athletic departments and student-athletes proactively prepare for this change and provide them the tools to capitalize on their brand power and voice.

    This episode covers everything from leadership and building a company, to NIL legislation and empowering student-athletes to better build their brands. 

    Jim Cavale Show Notes

    4:20     Giving Athletes a Better Brand and Voice - Genesis of INFLCR

    6:32     Leveraging Relationships and Forging Connections

    10:37   Evolution of INFLCR and Partnership with Teamworks

    21:31   Inception of INFLCR Verified

    27:43   Building an Internal Creative Agency

    30:44   From “Athlete Brand Building” to “Name Image Likeness”

    33:10   Performers, Producers and Players

    37:36   Combating Legislation Paralysis

    40:25   Four Domains of Personal Balance

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    Additional References
    INFLCR |  INFLCR Verified  |  INFLCR Plus
    Wake Up Warrior

    Connect with Jim
    Facebook  |  Twitter  |  Instagram  |  LinkedIn


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    51 min
  • Turn Fans Into Customers with David Meerman Scott

    Today's episode is all about turning fans into customers and customers into fans.  David sits down with internationally-known author, advisor, educator and speaker David Meerman Scott.  Scott co-wrote his latest book, Fanocracy: Turning Fans Into Customers and Customers into Fans, with his daughter Reiko Scott.  Fanocracy unearths the science behind building emotional connections in your tribe and marketing lessons learned from fandoms outside of sports, including the Grateful Dead.  The show takes a deep dive on applying those lessons to cultivating stronger experiences and relationships with your fanbase.

    Show Notes

    3:16      Defining Fandom

    6:15      A Family Affair - co-authoring “Fanocracy: Turning Customers into Fans and Fans into Customers” with Reiko Scott

    9:47      The Individualization of Fandom

    13:56    Combatting the Polarization of Social Media

    15:23    What Else is There? Building Fandoms Outside of Social Media

    21:45    Implementation of Fan Engagement in “Social Spaces”

    24:25    Lessons from K-Pop and Growing Rabid Fans

    26:41    The Power of K-Pop Fan Bases

    29:36    Making Fans Feel Like Insiders

    31:40    The Original Social Network

    37:04    The Mentality and Psyche of MLS Support Groups

    39:29    Utilizing Fandom to Create Emotional Connections

    43:25    Rapid Fire Questions

    • Bad Advice
    • Sharing success stories
    • David’s billboard: “Educate and inform, instead of interrupt and sell.”

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    Additional Resources

    Fanocracy.com |  Fanocracy: Turning Fans Into Customers and Customers Into Fans

    DavidMeermanScott.com

    Other Books by David Meerman Scott

    The New Rules of Marketing and PR

    Standout Virtual Events

    The New Rules of Sales and Service

    Marketing the Moon

    Marketing Lessons from the Grateful Dead

    Real-Time Marketing and PR
    Eyeball Wars

    World Wide Rave

    Connect with David and Reiko on Twitter

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    53 min
  • NIL & NFTs w/ Luka Garza

    In today's episode, David is joined by Luka Garza, starting center for the Iowa Hawkeyes,  AP College Basketball Player of the Year, and winner of the 2021 Naismith Trophy. They discuss name, image, and likeness, the launch of Luka's new NFT company LukaGarzaNFTGroup.io and how Luka hopes to provide opportunities for college athletes to monetize their brand, and the importance of college athletes being able to control their own brand.

    Show Notes:

    5:11 Digital Engagement Fan Support during 2020-21

    6:56 Breaking into the NFT game

    10:11  The Experiential Component of NFTs

    11:02  The Role of NFTs in NIL

    13:38  Launch of LukaGarzaNFT.io

    15:10 Takeaways from Luka’s first NFT

    17:44  Future partners of LukaGarzaNFTgroup.io 

    19:16  Leveraging partnerships to boost student-athlete brands

    20:45 The student-athlete perspective on NIL

    22:54  Turning NIL from a Zero-Sum game to a Win-Win situation 

    Additional Notes:

    Follow Luka Garza - 

    LukaGarzaNFTGroup.io |  Instagram  |  Twitter

    For More Great Iowa Sports related content, follow these guys:
    @davecreagh
    @ChiPeoplesChamp


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    Shoutout to these single episode Executive Producers:
    Dave Creagh
    Jerry Scherwin
    Dave Johnson
    Zach Gatton


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    28 min
  • Breaking the Live Events Business Model w/ Ed Vincent

    Today’s guest is Ed Vincent, Founder and CEO of FestivalPass.  Ed and his team are trying to reinvent the model for accessing live events and how we go about deciding what events to go to as consumers.  FestivalPass is the first festival and live event subscription marketplace that provides access to music, film, food and wine, tech and innovation, sports and entertainment and more.  His data-driven background is trying to help shape the future of the live events industry.

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    Show Notes

    4:32         The Building of FestivalPass

    7:50          Lessons Learned from MoviePass

    9:24          Utilizing Credit Systems for Dynamic Pricing\

    13:55     The Vision for FestivalPass

    15:08        Bringing Sports onto the FestivalPass platform - Brokering Deals with Ticket Providers

    20:25       Creating Value and Understanding Behaviors in Subscription Models

    26:35       Future Outlook on Live Events

    28:33       Understanding Consumer Confidence in Getting Back to “Normal”

    30:28       The Strategy of FestivalPass Post-Pandemic

    35:41    Criteria for Analyzing Failed Ideas

    38:13       Evaluating Core Principles for Implementing Ideas in New Industries

    40:43       New Trends in the Live Events Space

    44:30       Importance of Building the Infrastructure to Meet the Business Demand

    46:42       Applying Design Thinking to Your Business


    Additional References

    ClassPass

    Design Sprint by Jake Knapp

    Jake Knapp: Design Thinking Explained

    IDEO Design Thinking

    Contact Ed

    FestivalPass  |  Facebook  |  Twitter  |  Instagram  |  SnapChat

    LinkedIn


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    53 min
  • Opening a Multi-Billion $ Venue with No Fans

    Today’s episode is all about Guest Service vs. Guest Experience and Designing Customer Experiences in New Venues

    On this episode, David sits down with Kameron Durham, Vice President of Guest Experience for the entire entertainment footprint of Hollywood Park, including SoFi Stadium, the brand new home of the Los Angeles Rams and Los Angeles Chargers.  Prior to this role, he was the Director of Guest Services for the Seattle Mariners and the San Diego Padres.  In its first year, SoFi Stadium did not host any fans due to the COVID-19 pandemic.  In lieu of guests, they re-thought customer experience and service as stakeholder experience and service, focusing on the employees and players and those who are expected to deliver magical moments for fans. 

    Show Notes

    6:34     Transactional Guest Services vs. Proactive Guest Experiences 

    9:58     Mindsets and Skill Sets Changes 

    11:52  Evolution of Staffing - Investing In and Empowering Employees with the San Diego Padres

    15:42  Hiring Authentic People for Your Mission

    22:25  SoFi Stadium / Hollywood Park - Bringing a $5 Billion Project to Life

    27:30  Creating the Strategy, Knowledge, Tools and Rewards for Enhancing the Employee Experience 

    33:31  Measuring Success of Guest Experience 

    38:20  Incorporating Third-Party Partners into the Family

    41:46  Building an Employee Incentive/Reward Program

    44:20 Impactful Technology Enhancements for Guest Experience

    47:45  Putting the Customer at the Center of Decision Making

    50:48  Connecting Work, Live and Play in Hollywood Park

    53:41  Rapid Fire Questions

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    1 hr 2 min
  • Finding The Right Sponsorships for YOUR fans w/ Rob Temple and Rick Jones

    In today's episode, David sits down with two industry legends Rob Temple, 
    Chief Executive Officer at FishBait Solutions, LLC and Rick Jones, Captain, Creative Director and Shareholder at FishBait Solutions, LLC. When combining Rick's creative mind for amazing corporate sponsorship ideas and insights and Rob's previous 20-year experience as ESPN's Senior Vice President of Sports Marketing the two bring a powerhouse of knowledge into this episode. The three get into sponsorships and how to find the right corporate partners to connect with your unique fans. 

    Show Notes

    6:30  The Evolution and New Vision of FishBait Solutions 

    13:35  Appealing to the Next Generation of Fans 

    15:44  Looking Backward vs. Looking Forward for Solutions

    17:20  Takeaways from the NFL’s new TV agreement

    20:00  The 7Cs of Relationships

    21:51  Aligning and Future Proofing Contracts 

    25:56  What Does Success Look Like? - Solving Problems and Creating Partnerships

    31:03  Who Do Your Fans Trust Now?

    32:16  Creating Joy That Unites 

    34:30  Favorite Brand Activation and Partnership Stories
                 (Rob) Fearless Pursuit of New Activations 
                 (Rick) Knowing Your Brand and Your Community 

    41:39  Understanding the Macro of the Customer

    43:01  Most Challenging Project & Key Lessons Learned - NASCAR - Rob

    47:53  Creating Derivative & Niche Programming Content 

    52:25 5-Year-Plans to 5-Month-Plans and Planning for First to Market

    54:39  Most Challenging Project & Key Lessons Learned - Mascot Hall of Fame - Rick

    57:26  The Tallest Pygmy 

    58:46  Rapid Fire Questions

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    Additional Notes
    Book Recommendations

    “Grant” by Ron Chernow
    “The Pursuit of Wow” by Tom Peters
    “Leadershift” by John Maxwell
    “Know What You’re For” by Jeff Henderson


    Follow FishBait Solutions
    Facebook | Twitter | Instagram | LinkedIn 

    Connect with Rob Temple | Rick Jones

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    1 hr 6 min

About Making the Fan

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Turn casual customers into faithful fans. And employees into evangelists. 

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