David and Curtis talk to Dr. Derwin Gray about his career path from college football to the NFL to seminary and, ultimately, to the founder and pastor of Transformation church, a multi-ethnic congregation in South Carolina. Dr. Gray talks about his new book, How to Heal Our Racial Divide and David and Curtis ask him about political and racial tensions in church, critical race theory, and how he proposes reaching a church that's polarized on political and racial grounds.   Show Notes: -How to Heal Our Racial Divide by Derwin Gray -Desert News: “Leaning on Jesus to heal America’s racial divide” -Follow Derwin Gray on Twitter -RedeemingBabel.org 20% discount for Good Faith listeners: GoodFaith20

Making the Multi-Ethnic Dream a Reality

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Host Curtis Chang invites Dr. Mark Turman, Executive Director of Denison Forum and Vice President of Denison Ministries, to join him in examining the unique challenges faced by pastors in the American evangelical tradition. Both former pastors themselves, Curtis and Mark unpack the actual and perceived struggles that have made so many pastors contemplate leaving their roles. They also champion a missional mindset that can change the way pastors do gospel work and practical advice for congregants who want to support their spiritual leaders.   Donate to Redeeming Babel HERE   Bring The After Party course to your church or small group!    Order The After Party Book by Curtis Chang & Nancy French   Check out Dr. Turman's Denison Forum work   Resources mentioned in this episode:    The Great Dechurching: Who’s Leaving, Why Are They Going, and What Will It Take to Bring Them Back? by Jim Davis & Michael Graham   Barna Group Research: 7-Year Trends - Pastors Feel More Loneliness & Less Support   Barna Group Research: Pastors’ Credibility Is in Question—Even Among Pastors  

The Secret Life of Pastors (with Dr. Mark Turman)

Host Curtis Chang sits down with Elizabeth Neumann, a national security expert who served both the George W. Bush and  Donald Trump administrations. Together, they explore the alarming rise of radicalization among everyday citizens, including within evangelical communities, and its implications for both the Christian church and democracy. Neumann shares her insights on the roots of this growing extremism and what we can do to address and mitigate these threats.   Donate to Redeeming Babel HERE   Bring The After Party course to your church or small group!    Order The After Party Book by Curtis Chang & Nancy French    Order Kingdom of Rage: The Rise of Christian Extremism and the Path Back to Peace by Elizabeth Neumann  

Can Political Violence Come From the Church? (with Elizabeth Neumann)

Host Curtis Chang and Washington University professor of law & religion John Inazu explore principles that can teach us to cultivate greater empathy and respect for the differences we encounter in our daily lives. If you feel like you always have to be right, their conversation offers practical insights and stories that reveal how legal frameworks and Christian principles can inspire more compassionate interactions in a world brimming with diverse thoughts. Bring The After Party course to your church or small group!    Order The After Party Book by Curtis Chang & Nancy French  Order Learning to Disagree: The Surprising Path to Navigating Differences with Empathy and Respect by John Inazu  Discover the power of https://pastors.ai/   

Learning to Disagree (with John Inazu)

Curtis Chang and David French delve into the multifaceted impact of youth sports culture on both parents and children. They explore how it demands our time, influences our social status, can strain our finances, and even affects our spiritual well-being. Listen as they uncover the hidden costs of turning what used to be play into a semi-professional lifestyle and discuss practical steps we can take to reclaim balance and well-being for our families.   Bring The After Party course to your church or small group!    Order The After Party Book by Curtis Chang & Nancy French

The Hidden Costs of Youth Sports (with David French)

Host Curtis Chang engages in a profound and moving conversation with distinguished professor, pastor, and champion of Christian healthcare, John Swinton. Together, they delve into the theology of dementia care, exploring the spiritual dimensions of how God treasures all of His created beings, regardless of their cognitive abilities. Professor Swinton sheds light on the sacred act of caring for those afflicted with dementia and points listeners to the profound truth that God remembers His people, even when their remembrances of this life and His love wane.   Bring The After Party course to your church or small group!    Order The After Party Book by Curtis Chang & Nancy French   Buy Profesor Swintons Books   Read Professor Swinton’s Essays   

Making the Multi-Ethnic Dream a Reality

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