Mark Shaiken talks with Carl about what comes next after a big career as a successful attorney.

The questions started in his 50’s-- “Well, what else can I do?” The answers were not so easy for him then. “It’s sort of a loaded question,” says Mark. “The truth is there are lots of things we can do.” Carl agreed that sometimes it’s easy to get stuck in something when you're pretty good at it. Decades can fly by. 
 You don't need to be an attorney to learn from this interview about being "stuck" and how to figure out how to bust through to the next new thing. Mark wrote a memoir about his adventure, “And... Just Like That: Essays on a life before, during and after the law”

At the 32:23 time mark you can listen to Carl's short update interview, hear from Mark about his wonderful "afterlife" and learn about his first fiction book, a legal thriller, called Fresh Start. The original interview aired one year ago.

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