Will B2C be disrupted by creators?

Kipp and Kieran are joined by Trung Phan to discuss building a whole career around creating content online. Learn how to build a content research funnel, how to bring internet culture into business, build trust & credibility as a creator, and how should writers think about AI disruption?

About Trung Phan

The Internet meme guy on business and tech. ex-The Hustle/HubSpot. He has become one of the most popular internet people. The anti-LinkedIn guy.

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LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/in/tp23/ 

Bearly.ai https://bearly.ai/ 

Newsletter https://trungphan.substack.com/ 

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Video/image-based AI is going to transform marketing.

Kipp and Kieran dive into what Midjourney is and how it’s completely changing the game for marketers. Learn how image AI is going to change how we create content, why copyright law will be at the center of AI, and how these new tools will empower a marketer’s toolbelt.

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Midjourney https://www.midjourney.com/home/?callbackUrl=%2Fapp%2F  

Canva https://www.canva.com  

Matt Wolfe’s tweet https://twitter.com/mreflow/status/1642997929362472960 

Jim Fan’s tweet https://twitter.com/DrJimFan/status/1642921475849203712   

Getty Images https://www.gettyimages.com/  

Jenny AI’s tweet https://twitter.com/jenny____ai/status/1642895693672255492 

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You only need to master one of these tactics to create a billion-dollar business.

Kipp and Kieran dive into the core frameworks to take your business to the next level. Learn the power duo of template creation through organic search, why user-generated SEO loops are game-changing, and how you can incentivize your community to drive growth for your business.

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Bing’s market share is up by 15%. Google is down by 1%.

Kipp and Kieran take you through the new AI revolutions and how it will transform your business. Learn how to take AI and build real use cases for your business, the three types of roles that have forever changed from AI, how AI equals out the playing field for employees, and how to leverage AI to grow your business.

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People don’t want to follow brands.

Kipp and Kieran are joined by Ankur Nagpal (Founder at Ocho) to go all in on Ocho’s $0 marketing strategy. Learn why Ocho’s betting big on their team building their individual brands, how to take advantage of the hidden tax codes, why creators need to build ownership, and how to recruit a marketing leader.

About Ankur

Recently launched Ocho (ocho.com) to help business owners build wealth. He also runs Vibe Capital (vibe.vc), a venture capital fund with 100+ portfolio companies and $100M+ in AUM. 

Previously, founded Teachable (teachable.com) & scaled to $50M+ in ARR before selling to Hotmart, where he serves on the board. Currently lives in Brooklyn, NY when not vagabonding around the globe.

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Is Google going to get displaced in 2023?

Kipp and Kieran are joined by Nathan Labenz (founder at Waymark) to reveal the true power of GPT-4 and the real use cases for your business. Learn the weaknesses in AI, how it can affect current jobs, and why search won’t get disrupted in 2023.

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About Nathan Labenz

Nathan Labenz is the founder & AI R&D lead at Waymark, a video generation company, and also hosts the Cognitive Revolution podcast.

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How will the biggest day in AI history affect the marketing world?

Kipp and Kieran uncover all the AI news to keep you ahead of the curve. Learn why the launch of GPT-4 changes everything, why you need to adapt and iterate quickly to not get out-innovated, and why most businesses will change operating models in the next 5 years.

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Change is coming faster than you may think.

Kipp and Kieran dive into how you can defend your business in a post-A.I. world. Learn where to invest more into your business today, how to pivot from big disruptions, why you need strong data and quick distribution to survive, and will community survive in a post-A.I. world?

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How do you build a billion-dollar company?

Kipp and Kieran are celebrating the 100th episode with a deep dive into how HubSpot became a billion-dollar business and how you can use these teachings to propel your business forward. Learn HubSpot’s category creation process, learn your go-to-market strategy, how to build a product-led growth engine, and how to move the activation metric.

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A.I. will forever change how we use technology and software.

Kipp and Kieran break down how AI will change how you market your brand forever. Learn where you will start to see A.I. more prevalent, how to use A.I. to assist you with the customer journey, and the power of creating personalized experiences with A.I.

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Timestamps

(00:00) Learn more at Hubspot CMO

(00:45) Intro

(01:01) Marketing and AI tactics tests

(01:20) King of Sweaters, Yoga French Bulldog Statue & Mini Arcade

(01:55) Deep dive into a proposed studio Layout

(02:24) Interesting rumor - Foundry

(02:55) Introduction to Foundry: and Open AI

(03:35) Nathan Labban / Wayward

(04:03) Kieran: PO for Quora; a hidden gem of AI

(04:31) Will AI replace jobs?

(06:36) Industrial revolution

(07:00) Period of Disaggregation: AI unbundling the internet

(08:31) The ability to re-skill workers

(09:45) How and where is AI going to play out in 2023

(10:58) Kipps POV on AI

(11:26) Brian Halligan kept sending emails about AI

(14:45) In the AI world – support is 24/7

(15:19) Typical customer journey: Customers using AI for a better experience

(16:53) Kipp shares real-life experience at Hubspot

(17:40) How important is chat on the website?

(19:16) The best chat experience – Automation/AI Enabled Chat

(20:12) Kieran thinks something magical in AI

(22:50) Kipp discusses the first principle of marketing

(24:40) The rise of sales and marketing automation with AI

(26:51) As AI develops over the next 5 to 10 years

(28:18) There’s real value in integrating AI into chat, emails, etc.

(29:00) Conversion optimization; facilitating vs. distracting

(30:15) Kipp’s long-term optimism about AI: “Please launch Foundry!”

(30:55) Outro

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