Venom. He's a slime guy, he has big teeth, a Spiderman villain without a Spiderman, cast adrift into the seas of franchise uncertainty. In this appropriately amorphous, wide ranging episode we discuss the Venom character in comics, Tom Hardy's weirdo performance, Sony's jockying for position in it's tense shared-franchise relationship with Disney, the economics of modern franchise blockbusters, Cole gets so high they invent an entirely different movie, and Nicole makes Stu read some depraved fan fiction. It's a wild ride.

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In our most controversial episode yet, we take a look at the only black led movie ever made, the film that ended racism in America and dislodged the cheeto from the throat of its government: Black Panther (no relation). In this exciting episode you'll find: Stan Lee is a wily bastard, Jack Kirby talks like an old man, Afrofuturism as laser-shooting spears, bad cgi doubles, the limits of the liberal imagination, Africa as a fantasy projection for Americans, the lamest civil war since the last marvel movie, great casting, the meaning of diversity in film, conservative contrarian film critic Armond White, and much more!

In the grand tradition of raining on everyone's parade, we're bucking our usual schedule and revisiting/taking to task the critically acclaimed, Academy Award winning Sony Animation extravaganza Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, a film Letterboxd users have rated as better than Goodfellas, Sunset Boulevard, and Persona. While the internet is currently freaking out over trans-coded Gwen Stacy, Nicole, Stu, and resident Spider-Man expert Cole bring some clarity to an admittedly beautiful looking but otherwise bog-standard Marvel movie about multiverses and believing in yourself that's very clearly written by white people trying to appeal to the young PoC Tumblr demographic (save for co-director Peter Ramsey). The only thing whiter than the production team behind Spider-Verse are the creative minds who brought us Miles Morales, a character whose origins lie in someone at Marvel thinking, "What if we made Spider-Man a young Obama?" And before you come to yell at us for not liking your favorite movie of all time, consider reading the late Dwayne McDuffie's 1989 letter to Marvel calling out the whiteness of their black characters and see just how prescient it reads regarding the creation and use of Miles Morales.

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Five years ago, a mysterious and terrible force struck our culture like a meteor - laying waste to fandoms, blogs, video essays and fanfic websites. Now, present day, present time, three intrepid podcasters set out across the irradiated rubble of dessicated dead discourse, into the scorched wounds of a dying film franchise, and sift through the ashes and entrails to bring you the final word on The Journal of the Whills: The Saga of The Star Wars: Episode VII: The Last Jedi - a mildly interesting but entirely mid film that inexplicably drove millions of people insane for no reason.

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In this luxurious, deluxe episode the crew bring you two movies for the length of three: Justice League (2017) and Zack Snyder's Justice League (2021). We outline the troubled production and personal tragedy that led to Snyder's ouster from his superhero magnum opus, and how WB brought in noted male feminist Joss Whedon to work his MCU magic, soy-up the grim epic and bring the runtime down to a svelte one hour, fifty-nine minutes and fifty-nine seconds. Disaster ensues, then a phoenix rises from the ashes - after fan outcry and studio desperation, a undulturated four hour original cut is produced and released in 2021. We watched both. We liked one. Tune in to find out which, and much more, in this must-hear episode.

*The 'Stu Cut' of this episode will be released in 2024 pending fan outcry.

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With the release of The Flash on the summer movie horizon, we're unlocking our Patreon bonus special investigative report on Ezra Miller and their crazy ass 2022. 

WB-Discovery cancelled basically everything except their upcoming The Flash movie, the basket in which the newly forged juggernaut of classic films, DC superheroes and Shark Week has decided to put all their eggs? Ezra Miller. Once indie darling (alleged) turned blockbuster star (alleged) turned raving groomer psycho (alleged) turned messianic cult leader (alleged). Why, in the era of MeToo, has WB pinned their fate on a powderkeg combination of Jim Jones and FF7haus? We don't know, but we're going to find out* in this Marvelous! special celebrity gossip true crime investigation.

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The winner of our first patron raffle, the crew is forced to talk about Valerian, the already-forgotten bankruptcy inducing french pedophile sci-fi epic. In this exclusive excerpt, Cole breaks the simulation on Cara Delevingne's eyebrows.

On this episode Stu and Cole bully Nicole for enjoying things. Cole tells us about Thor and Hulk in comics, and how the MCU films have sold them both short. We discuss how a film that seems to want to be so whimsical and colorful seems to fall so flat, and how director Taika Waititi seems totally apathetic towards if not contemptuous of fantasy and science fiction: The small-minded and unimaginative cynicism that deflates the wonder and spectacle from Marvel's adaptations of it's more cosmic and psychedelic material. Also everything is on a green screen and half the cast are clearly never on set at the same time.

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In this special bonus episode, Andy from Those Good Old Fashioned Values joins the pod to walk us through a retrospective on the formative years of this generation spanning cartoon franchise, its origin in independent comics, and a discussion of the surprisingly well-crafted and endearingly corny 1990 live action film. But first, Nicole makes a horrifying discovery about Turtle biology.

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What if they made a comic-book movie... for grown ups? It's Logan! It's Wolverine! Remember Wolverine? He's old and sad. He says fuck. He chops dudes arms off. Professor X says swears and poops his pants. Everybody dies in the grim dark future of six years from now. We liked it ok, it's good but not as good as you remember, but we get to enjoy some great performances, fun gore, and discuss just what it means to make a 'mature' superhero story.

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