My guest today is Matthieu Villatte, PhD. Matthieu is a psychology trainer and consultant who obtained his doctoral degree in psychology in France, and completed a post-doctoral fellowship at the University of Nevada under the mentorship of Steven Hayes, PhD.  Matthieu Villatte is the author of numerous books and chapters on mindfulness, acceptance, experiential therapies, and contextual behavioral science, such as the first manual published in French on Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and Mastering the Clinical Conversation: Language as Intervention. He is also a peer-reviewed trainer in Acceptance and Commitment Therapy recognized by the Association for Contextual Behavioral Science (ACBS) and has facilitated hundreds of clinical trainings all over the world.

Some of the topics we explore in this episode include:
- The impact of Mastering the Clinical Conversation
- What is was like working in Steven Hayes’ lab
- Relational Frame Theory (RFT)
- Our innate capacity for language at birth
- The implications of RFT on human suffering
- The inseparable nature of language and consciousness
- And how the complexities of clinical work can become more fluid with experience

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Matthieu’s website: https://matthieuvillatte.com/

Mastering the Clinical Conversation: https://a.co/d/iWduMiA

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