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Meet The World's Worst Mom with Lenore Skenazy


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Okay, so you’ve probably heard the story: a New York mom lets her 9-year-old ride the subway alone… and the entire world loses its mind. That mom is my guest today, Lenore Skenazy, and she’s been lovingly (and infamously) dubbed “The World’s Worst Mom.” Spoiler: she’s actually one of the bravest, funniest, and most sensible voices in parenting today.

Lenore’s simple act of trusting her kid sparked a global conversation about parenting, independence, and the culture of fear we’ve all been marinating in. She went from being vilified on morning shows to becoming the president of Let Grow and the author of Free Range Kids, a whole movement dedicated to giving kids back their confidence (and parents back their sanity).

And honestly? Talking to her made me do a little gut-check of my own. When I imagined sending my son on the subway at 9, my first reaction was, “Oh hell no.” But then I thought about it—what was I actually afraid of? Abduction? Not really. More like him getting lost and maybe a little scared. And then I thought… wait. Isn’t that kind of the point? To let him practice being lost and then figure it out? (Cue me rethinking all my “just let me do it for you” parenting moments.)

In this episode, we dig into why we’ve become so terrified of letting kids do literally anything, how “worst-first” thinking has hijacked modern parenting, and why giving kids independence isn’t neglect—it’s actually the best gift we can give them. Lenore even tells me about a mom who was spoon-feeding her 10-year-old (yep, you read that right) and what happened when that kid finally learned to cut his own mango. Spoiler: it’s glorious.

If you’ve ever caught yourself hovering a little too close to your kids or wondering if you’re “doing it wrong,” this episode is your friendly permission slip to breathe, back off a little, and let your kid surprise you. And if you’re not a parent? Trust me, this convo still hits. It’s really about fear, resilience, and how much we all grow when we’re allowed to stumble a little.

What’s Inside:

  • The wild story of how one subway ride made Lenore a global headline
  • Why fear has become the default mode in modern parenting (and how to break free)
  • The surprising ways overprotection backfires on kids’ confidence and resilience
  • Practical steps from Lenore’s Let Grow project that help families rebuild independence 

So here’s the mic drop: are you living out of fear, or letting yourself and your kids grow into the badass humans you know you can be? If you’ve got a “world’s worst mom” (or dad) story of your own, I want the tea. DM me on Instagram and let’s laugh, cringe, and maybe rethink some of this parenting madness together. 

 

Mentioned in this episode:

Free Range Kids by Lenore Skenazy

Let Grow

Peter Gray’s book Free to Learn

Jonathan Haidt’s book The Anxious Generation

Oonagh Duncan on Instagram

Fit Feels Good Strong AF

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