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Raoul Pal welcomes Michael Howell, CEO and managing director of CrossBorder Capital, back to Real Vision to explore the geopolitical and economic forces shaping the U.S. dollar, the implications of China's potential stimulus, and how investors can sidestep macro landmines using assets like crypto, gold, and equities as hedges against monetary inflation. Recorded on January 20, 2025.


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