This conversation with Michelle Obama is full of the kind of wisdom that stays with you. With Keke, she opens up about motherhood, ambition, marriage, Black womanhood, and the freedom she’s found in this chapter of her life. She also shares insight on staying grounded when the world tries to define you. From her podcast, IMO with Michelle Obama and Craig Robinson, to her book, The Look, Michelle and Keke discuss honesty, confidence, self-expression, and being seen for who you are.

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