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  • Dixon Dedman: The Man Behind The Bottle

    What makes a bottle worth remembering? For Dixon Dedman, the answer starts with the people who share it.

    The master blender behind 2XO joins Mick Hunt for a conversation about bourbon, hospitality, creative conviction, and the legacy he hopes to leave his children. Dixon explains how his family's hospitality roots shaped his purpose, why blending requires more than mixing percentages, and how he approaches mouthfeel, maturation, and secondary oak exposure.

    Mick also tastes Rapper's Delight during the conversation, and Dixon shares the story of a father and son celebrating a new generation with a bottle of Kentucky Owl. That moment brings the conversation back to his because: making something that becomes part of another person's meaningful experience.

    In this episode:

    •  How hospitality shaped Dixon's purpose and approach to bourbon

    • The challenge of reproducing a small sample blend at barrel scale

    • Why creative conviction matters when developing a whiskey

    • His focus on mouthfeel, viscosity, and the overall drinking experience

    • The personal connections that matter beyond awards and ratings

    • His hope that the next generation will carry the family legacy forward

    • Listen for the lesson that travels beyond bourbon: exceeding expectations can turn a product or service into a moment someone remembers.

      • Chapters
      • 00:00 A moment beyond selling bottles
      • 00:40 Meet Dixon Dedman
      • 03:06 What is your because?
      • 07:30 Moments, memories, and personal connection
      • 10:07 Unplugged Truth: the craft of blending
      • 15:20 Putting a personal mark on whiskey
      • 19:27 Hot Takes: tasting Rapper's Delight
      • 22:01 Mouthfeel and the drinking experience
      • 35:00 The Room: a toast to three generations
      • 39:29 2XO and the recorded plans discussed
      • 42:20 Unplugged 5
      • 46:08 The legacy Dixon hopes to leave
      • 48:08 Closing reflections
      • Follow Mick Unplugged for more conversations about purpose, leadership, and the because behind the work.


        Connect & Discover Dixon Dedman:

        Instagram: @dixon_dedman

        LinkedIn: @dixon_dedman

        X: @dixon_dedman

        Website: 2xowhiskey.com

                                

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        Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

        Website: Leadloudseries.com

        Apple: MickUnplugged

        Book: How to be A Good Leader When You’ve Never Had One

        #MickUnplugged #Leadership #Podcast #DixonDedman #2XOWhiskey


        54 min
      • Derek Gaunt: Fight Less, Win More Through Tactical Empathy

        Your next difficult conversation may not need a stronger argument. It may need a better question.

        In this episode of Mick Unplugged, Mick sits down with his coach, Derek Gaunt, for a personal conversation about the communication skills that changed how Mick leads, negotiates, and approaches conflict.

        Derek draws on his law-enforcement and hostage-negotiation experience to explain tactical empathy: recognizing another person's perspective without having to agree with it. He breaks down why explaining too early creates resistance, how tone affects a conversation, and why an objection can point to a concern that has not yet been spoken aloud.

        Mick shares how asking what success looked like to a client uncovered a need he had missed. Derek also discusses the practical ideas behind Fight Less, Win More, the role of curiosity, and why difficult conversations often deserve a phone call instead of another long email.

        The conversation closes with lessons on coachability, silence, trust, and staying grounded under pressure.

        In this episode

        • Why acknowledging a perspective is different from agreeing with it.

        • How listening helps uncover the information missing from your assumptions.

        • Why you should ask what success looks like before deciding what someone needs.

        • What a hostage-negotiation training exercise reveals about tone and pressure.

        • How unaddressed concerns can resurface after an agreement.

        • Why Derek encourages live conversation for sensitive back-and-forth discussions.

        • What coachability looks like when someone is already successful.

        • How silence creates space to learn.

        • Takeaways

          Before your next difficult conversation, replace one assumption with a question. Listen to the answer before preparing your response.

          Follow Mick Unplugged for more conversations about the because behind how we live, lead, and grow.


          Chapters

          00:00 Meet Derek Gaunt, Mick's coach

          03:29 The Because: sharing the gift of communication

          05:25 Derek's journey in law enforcement

          11:33 The Unplugged Truth: see their perspective

          16:44 What does success look like?

          19:41 The warning signs you should not ignore

          21:45 Hot Takes: tone and pressure in negotiation

          28:09 Find the concern beneath the objection

          31:05 Why the conversation needs a phone call

          35:05 Fight Less, Win More

          39:08 The Room: a conversation that changed Derek's path

          41:30 What Derek looks for in someone he coaches

          45:05 When the skills change your personal life

          48:12 The Unplugged Five

          53:00 Silence as a negotiation tool

          54:17 Trust, training, and final lessons

          56:43 Closing


          Connect & Discover:

          Instagram: @derekmgaunt

          LinkedIn: @derek-gaunt-2943a824

          Website: The Black Swan Group

          Book: Fight Less, Win More: How Master Negotiators Influence Hearts, Minds and Deals

          Clip: 60 Seconds or She Dies            

                      

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          Instagram: @mickunplugged 

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          LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

          Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

          Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

          Website: Leadloudseries.com

          Apple: MickUnplugged

          Book: How to be A Good Leader When You’ve Never Had One

          #MickUnplugged #Leadership #Podcast #DerekGaunt #Negotiation


          1 hr 2 min
        • David Pollack: Standards Over Feelings | Re-release

          This Monday on Mick Unplugged, we’re revisiting Mick Hunt’s conversation with David Pollack about standards, faith, leadership, and the work behind personal growth.

          David shares how mentorship and his experiences in football shaped the way he approaches challenges, leads others, and keeps growing. Mick and David explore the “50-40-10” principle, why preparation and consistent effort matter, and what it means to hold your standards when your feelings pull you in another direction.

          Whether you’re hearing this conversation for the first time or returning for another listen, consider where you can put one of these lessons into practice this week.

          This is a re-release of a previously recorded episode.

          In this conversation:

          • Choosing standards over feelings.

          • The role of preparation and effort in the “50-40-10” philosophy.

          • Leadership built on care, influence, and understanding the people you lead.

          • How an invitation and a mentor helped shape David’s faith journey.

          • Adapting through challenges and learning from setbacks.

          • Reflection: Where are you letting a temporary feeling make a decision that should be guided by a lasting standard?

            Follow Mick Unplugged for more conversations about purpose, leadership, and your because. Share this episode with someone who could use it this week.


            Connect & Discover David Pollack:

            Instagram: @davidpollack47

            Facebook: @PollackFF

            X: @davidpollack47

            YouTube: @DavidPollackCFB

            Website: davidpollack.com

            Podcast: See Ball Get Ball with David Pollack


            FOLLOW MICK ON:

            Spotify: MickUnplugged

            Instagram: @mickunplugged 

            Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

            LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

            Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

            Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

            Website: Leadloudseries.com

            Apple: MickUnplugged

            Book: How to be A Good Leader When You’ve Never Had One

            #MickUnplugged #Leadership #Podcast


            41 min
          • Ms. Pat: The American Dream Money Can't Buy

            What happens when you get the house, the car and the things you thought would make you happy, then realize your real dream was already at home?

            Ms. Pat joins Mick Hunt for a funny, candid conversation about family, authenticity and defining success for yourself. Discussing her memoir, Ms. American Dream, she explains why happiness has no price tag, how she prepared for Hollywood when she did not know the language, and why she thinks of fame as a job rather than an identity.

            They also explore the money lessons she wants younger generations to learn, the podcast appearances that helped open doors, and the legacy she hopes to leave: keep going and never let someone else tell you who you are.

            Explicit language. Discussion includes personal experiences with debt and credit, not individualized financial advice.

            Ms. Pat's purpose is bigger than getting a laugh. She wants people to know that their hardest experiences do not have to hold them down forever.

            In this episode:

            • The Because: laughter, survival and moving forward after difficult experiences.

            • The Unplugged Truth: why material success did not define her American dream.

            • What home, family and being Patricia mean to her.

            • Preparing for a table read through practice instead of pretending she already knew everything.

            • Why treating people well matters more to her than acting famous.

            • Hot Takes: the credit, interest-rate and saving lessons she shares with family and friends.

            • The Room: trusting her instincts about podcasts before Hollywood called. 

            • The Unplugged Five: food, Atlanta, comedy and the legacy of never giving up.

            • Connect & Discover Ms Pat:

              Instagram: @comediannemspat

              Facebook: @mspatcomedy

              TikTok: @comediannemspat

              YouTube: @MsPat

              X: @MsPat

              Website: mspatcomedy.com

              Book: Ms. American Dream: A Memoir of Making It No Matter What             

                           

              FOLLOW MICK ON:

              Spotify: MickUnplugged

              Instagram: @mickunplugged 

              Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

              LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

              Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

              Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

              Website: Leadloudseries.com

              Apple: MickUnplugged


              34 min
            • Jesse Cole: Normal Gets Normal Results | The Fans First Playbook

              Normal gets normal results. What would happen if you stopped copying your industry and started creating an experience people could not stop talking about?

              In this Mick Unplugged re-release, Mick Hunt sits down with Jesse Cole for a practical conversation about building a fans-first business. Jesse shares how joy, memorable moments, and a willingness to try what others will not can change the way customers and employees experience your brand.

              The conversation goes beyond the show on the field. Jesse explains how his team looks for customer friction, why values matter most when they cost you something, and how storytelling keeps a growing organization aligned. He recounts a ticket-email mistake and the decision to make it right, even at what he describes as a $6 million cost to the company.

              You will also hear why failure can be treated as discovery, how gratitude helps create fans, and why great leaders keep teaching, repeating, and getting their reps in.

              If you lead a team, serve customers, or are building something of your own, this conversation will challenge you to stop settling for ordinary.

              This is a re-release of an archival conversation. References to team counts, tours, ticket demand, and projects reflect the time of recording.

              The big idea

              Being different is not the goal by itself. Creating an experience people remember, talk about, and want to share is the goal. Jesse Cole explains how he uses that distinction to lead, generate ideas, and build a fans-first culture.


               In this episode

              - Jesse's deeper purpose: bringing people together through joy.

              - Why copying the normal practices of an industry tends to produce normal results.

              - How to identify friction in everyday customer interactions, from invoices to the live experience.

              - The "you wouldn't believe" test for a memorable moment.

              - Why a company's values need to show up in decisions, not just on the wall.

              - Jesse's account of an email mistake and a costly ticket commitment.

              - How repeated stories and team recognition reinforce culture.

              - Why watching customer behavior can reveal more than asking for opinions.

              - The setbacks behind ambitious ideas and the discipline of continuing to improve.

              - Gratitude as a daily practice for leaders, employees, and customers.

              - Why great leaders teach, repeat, and practice communicating.


              Put it into practice

              Choose one ordinary interaction in your business. Find the friction. Write down three ways to make the experience more useful, surprising, or memorable. Then thank one person who has helped you build what you have.


              Chapters

              00:00 Why this conversation is a business masterclass

              00:40 Welcome to Mick Unplugged

              01:39 Jesse's because: bringing people together with joy

              03:38 Bring the energy and make moments matter

              04:23 Why normal gets normal results

              07:51 Find the friction and create memorable experiences

              09:50 Making fans-first values real

              10:13 The ticket mistake and the cost of doing right

              13:13 Storytelling and a culture that scales

              15:26 Reinvention without losing your direction

              16:19 Build the best experience and watch your fans

              18:53 The setbacks behind the show

              21:17 Inspiration, energy, and doing hard things

              22:41 Gratitude and creating fans

              24:28 Great leaders teach and get their reps in

              26:53 Creativity, speaking, and sharing the journey

              29:36 Quick questions: yellow tuxes, big moments, and lessons

              31:21 The daily creativity routine

              31:51 Jesse's message about legacy

              33:13 Your because is your superpower


              Connect & Discover Jesse Cole:

              Instagram: @yellowtuxjesse

              LinkedIn: @yellowtuxjesse

              Facebook: @jesse.cole.129

              TikTok: @yellowtuxjesse

              YouTube: @yellowtuxjesse

              Website: findyouryellowtux.com

              Savannah Bananas: thesavannahbananas.com

              Non-Profit: bananasfoster.org

              Books: Fans First

                           Banana Ball

                           Find Your Yellow Tux


              FOLLOW MICK ON:

              Spotify: MickUnplugged

              Instagram: @mickunplugged 

              Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

              LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

              Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

              Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

              Website: Leadloudseries.com

              Apple: MickUnplugged

              #mickunplugged #jessecole #thesavannahbananas #fansfirst #leadership



              38 min
            • Justin Brown: I Do Not Have Followers, I Have My People

              In this episode of Mick Unplugged, Justin, The Real Food Stalker, sits down with Mick Hunt and unpacks the unglamorous work behind a following that grew without a single negative review. He started Food Stalker in 2010 with nothing but photos and a habit of asking waiters what the next table ordered. He did not eat on camera until 2021, when his kids told him he made food look too good not to. He paid for every meal himself long before a brand ever called.

              Mick opens up about his own start, too. When he was still a LinkedIn-only guy two and a half years ago, Justin was the first account he followed on Instagram, and watching Justin be unapologetically himself is what convinced Mick he did not have to perform to show up online.

              The conversation runs from microwave burgers to a lost footrace to a sister who brought home teriyaki wings and accidentally created a food critic. But the through line is simple and it applies far past food: you do not have to be the most talented person in the room. You have to be the one who keeps showing up.

              IN THIS EPISODE

              • Why Justin never posts food he does not like

              • How Food Stalker started in 2010 and became a camera habit in 2021

              • Why consistency beats talent in every arena

              • The phone-and-CapCut workflow behind every video

              • The three thousand dollar camera he never used

              • How the AJC writing opportunity changed the way he describes food

              • Why honesty and negativity are not the same thing

              • The sister whose leftovers built his palate

              • What brands get wrong when they buy three videos instead of a partner

              • Why he says he has people, not fans or followers

              • CHAPTERS

                00:00 Introduction

                00:55 How Justin got Mick on Instagram

                03:10 The Because

                03:50 Why he only shows food he likes

                05:20 From 2010 photos to eating on camera

                06:49 The Unplugged Truth

                07:21 Consistency is everything

                09:48 Fans, followers, or your people

                09:51 The gear: phones, CapCut and one take

                13:07 Writing for the AJC

                17:40 Hot Takes

                17:57 The microwave burger debate

                21:42 The race he lost to his nephew

                27:02 The Room

                27:26 The sister who changed his taste buds

                29:55 Vegan mac and cheese

                33:03 How Mick Unplugged started

                36:48 The Unplugged Five

                43:29 What Justin wants the world to know

                46:36 Where to follow Justin

                48:05 Closing


                Connect & Discover Justin Brown:

                Instagram: @therealfoodstalker

                Facebook: @The-Real-Food-Stalker

                TikTok: @therealfoodstalker

                YouTube: @therealfoodstalker

                LinkedIn: @justintherealfoodstalker

                FOLLOW MICK ON:

                Spotify: MickUnplugged

                Instagram: @mickunplugged 

                Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

                LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

                Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

                Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

                Website: Leadloudseries.com

                Apple: MickUnplugged



                52 min
              • Gary Vee: The Inconvenient Truth About Winning in the Interest Media Era

                What if the problem is not your content, your reach, or the algorithm? What if the real problem is that you are trying to be social instead of becoming unmistakably yourself?

                In this Mick Unplugged re-release, Mick Hunt sits down with Gary Vaynerchuk, known worldwide as Gary Vee, for a direct conversation about interest media, authentic personal branding, accountability, gratitude, and the discipline required to build something that lasts.
                Gary explains why intent matters more than tactics, why audiences can sense when a creator is only trying to sell, and why the only niche no one else can copy is you. He also shares how staying close to culture helps him see shifts before they become obvious, why blaming other people keeps us stuck, and why winning should make us more compassionate, not more bitter.
                This is not a conversation about shortcuts. It is a reminder to get back in the trenches, live within your values, protect your energy, and take responsibility for the life and work you want to build.
                Note: This episode contains explicit language.

                In this episode, you will learn:

                - Why social platforms are increasingly organized around interests instead of existing social connections
                - Why genuine intent can matter more than a perfect content strategy
                - How staying close to culture helps Gary form original points of view
                - Why the only truly defensible personal-brand niche is being fully yourself
                - How accountability changes your relationship with money, work, and
                opportunity
                - Why limiting negative inputs can help you rebuild your energy
                - How to respond when people close to you struggle with your success
                - Why Gary believes collecting and live social shopping will keep growing

                Chapters

                00:00 Interest media and the conversation ahead
                00:30 Gary Vee joins Mick
                02:52 Gary's deeper purpose and the power of gratitude
                05:36 Consistency through cultural and political change
                08:32 Why intent matters more than the transaction
                10:56 Measuring 45 times before cutting once
                14:29 The more you become yourself, the more you win
                16:19 Personal brand, garage sales, and serving people at every level
                18:21 From social media to interest media
                23:05 Remote work, entitlement, and changing expectations
                27:09 Money choices, humility, and personal accountability
                28:56 When you need to move your feet
                29:19 Protecting your energy from negative inputs
                33:07 Compassion for the people who boo your success
                34:46 Gary's vision for VeeFriends and collectibles
                38:16 The VeeFriends quiz and closing challenge


                Connect & Discover Gary Vee:

                Instagram: @garyvee

                YouTube: @GaryVee

                TikTok: @garyvee

                Facebook: @gary

                X: @garyvee

                LinkedIn: @garyvaynerchuk

                Website: garyvaynerchul.com

                FOLLOW MICK ON:

                Spotify: MickUnplugged

                Instagram: @mickunplugged 

                Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

                LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

                Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

                Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

                Website: Leadloudseries.com

                Apple: MickUnplugged






                44 min
              • Darryl Strawberry: Another Life

                Darryl Strawberry's story is bigger than baseball.

                In this deeply personal episode of Mick Unplugged, Darryl opens up about the mother who raised five children alone, the pain of an absent and abusive father, the cost of success without healing, and the freedom he found through forgiveness.

                Darryl shares why talent and fame could not repair what was broken inside him. He reflects on addiction, consequences, discipline, ministry, marriage, and the moment he finally forgave his father at his bedside. Mick also shares how Darryl's book, Another Life, helped him process his own relationship with his late father and begin thinking differently about forgiveness and self-forgiveness.

                The conversation moves from baseball to faith, but the central lesson is universal: your past does not disqualify your purpose, and the way you start does not have to determine the way you finish.

                IN THIS EPISODE


                • Why Darryl's mother became the foundation of his resilience

                • How proving his father wrong fueled his early ambition

                • Why success exposes who you are

                • The consequences Darryl could not outrun

                • How forgiving his father gave him freedom

                • Why Tracy's boundaries helped redirect his life

                • The difference between talent, identity, and purpose

                • What Another Life reveals about healing and faith

                • Why Darryl believes it is not how you start, but how you finish

                • The legacy he wants to leave for his children


                MICK'S BOOK OFFER

                Mick is purchasing 50 copies of Darryl Strawberry's new book, Another Life, for members of the Mick Unplugged community.

                To request a copy, message Mick the words "another life" on LinkedIn or Instagram. The offer is limited to the first 50 eligible responses and is available while supplies last.


                BOOK

                Another Life: Discovering the Healing Power of Purpose on My Long Journey from Player to Preacher

                Darryl Strawberry

                https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Another-Life/Darryl-Strawberry/9781637748848


                CHAPTERS

                00:00 Introduction

                02:16 The Because

                02:54 Darryl's purpose and the mother who never quit

                07:15 Success exposes who you are

                10:07 The Unplugged Truth

                11:39 Forgiving his father

                17:38 Hot Takes

                21:11 Discipline, faith, and ministry

                24:23 The Room

                27:15 Another Life

                29:54 Mick's 50-book giveaway

                31:34 The Unplugged Five

                32:46 The legacy Darryl wants to leave

                33:17 Closing


                Connect & Discover Darryl:

                Instagram: @darrylstrawberry18

                Website: darrylstrawberry18.com

                Facebook: @therealdarrystrawberry

                Threads: @darrylstrawberry18

                Book: Another Life: Discovering the Healing Power of Purpose on My Long Journey from Player to Preacher

                Strawberry Ministries: @livingrestored


                FOLLOW MICK ON:

                Spotify: MickUnplugged

                Instagram: @mickunplugged 

                Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

                LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

                Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

                Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

                Website: Leadloudseries.com

                Apple: MickUnplugged


                #MickUnplugged #Leadership #Podcast #darrylstrawberry



                38 min
              • Daymond John: Why the Best Deals Are the Ones You Walk Away From

                The most powerful move in business is not always saying yes. Sometimes it is knowing when to walk away.

                Daymond John joins Mick Hunt for a candid conversation about the decisions that shape a business and a life. The FUBU founder and Shark Tank investor explains why his deeper purpose is “because I should,” how mentors can save us from painful mistakes and why growing too quickly can quietly destroy what an entrepreneur worked to build.

                Daymond also opens up about his health journey after cancer and the discipline of making gradual, sustainable change. He shares how he thinks about investing through his “My Money, Homie” framework, why he supports artists without asking for anything in return and how a five-to-seven-person filter helps him decide what belongs on social media.

                This episode is a sharp, funny and personal masterclass in protecting your time, choosing the right people and refusing opportunities that no longer respect your value. Daymond’s message is clear: get narrow, go deep and keep the power to walk away.


                IN THIS EPISODE

                • Why Daymond’s deeper purpose is “because I should”

                • How dyslexia, business and cancer shaped his perspective

                • Why mentors and mistakes are the two great teachers

                • How scaling too fast can weaken a business

                • The difference between purpose-driven and return-driven investments

                • Why Daymond supports artists without asking for anything back

                • The five-to-seven-person filter behind his social media decisions

                • Why too many opportunities can become a liability

                • How walking away protects your value

                • Why a small, trusted inner circle can outperform a massive network


                CHAPTERS

                00:00 Mentors or mistakes

                01:38 Meet Daymond John

                03:38 “Because I should”

                06:04 What Daymond had to overcome

                08:13 Fasting, discipline and gradual change

                12:09 Cancer and the decision to study health

                16:44 Why mentors matter

                20:15 Don’t scale too fast

                23:50 “My Money, Homie” and smarter investing

                28:47 Supporting artists with no strings attached

                33:16 The two-year-old turkey leg debate

                35:29 Daymond’s five-to-seven-person filter

                39:34 Drowning in opportunity

                41:15 The power to walk away

                41:30 Quick Five

                43:39 Go narrow and deep

                43:53 Leadership and what Daymond is building

                46:22 Closing


                Connect with Daymond John:

                Website: daymondjohn.com

                Instagram: @thesharkdaymond

                LinkedIn: @daymondjohn

                YouTube: @TheSharkDaymond

                Facebook: @TheSharkDaymond


                FOLLOW MICK ON:

                Spotify: MickUnplugged

                Instagram: @mickunplugged 

                Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

                LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

                Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

                Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

                Website: Leadloudseries.com

                Apple: MickUnplugged


                #MickUnplugged #Leadership #Podcast #daymondjohn


                47 min
              • Kier Gaines: Why Healing Starts With the Truth You Keep Avoiding

                Mick sits down with licensed therapist, mental health advocate and author Kier Gaines for a direct conversation about emotional honesty, uncomfortable truths and the courage to begin.

                Kier explains why saying "you hurt my feelings" can be an act of strength, especially for men who have been conditioned to hide emotion. He and Mick unpack avoidance, awareness, curiosity, boundaries, professional value and why credentials still matter in a culture that often rewards visibility over expertise.

                Kier also shares the barber shop conversation that helped him recognize his mind as a valuable tool for change. He explains why his book, It All Starts When You Do, rejects shallow positivity and invites readers into the real work of self-healing.

                This conversation is honest, practical and deeply human. It is about telling the truth, protecting what matters and taking the first step before you feel completely ready.


                IN THIS EPISODE

                • Why emotional honesty is a form of authority, not weakness

                • How to move beyond surface-level wellness

                • Why awareness and curiosity are the first two steps toward change

                • The connection between boundaries, business and self-respect

                • Why credentials create accountability, safety and protection

                • How attention and notoriety can weaken integrity

                • The barber shop conversation that changed Kier's view of his work

                • Why "walking away from what does not serve you" can become avoidance

                • The meaning of an authentic and consistent legacy


                MICK'S BOOK OFFER

                As discussed in the episode, the first 20 people who message Mick with the words "I'm starting" will receive a copy of It All Starts When You Do, purchased by Mick. Available while the offer remains open and supplies last.


                CHAPTERS

                00:00 The Attention Economy and Integrity

                00:24 Meet Kier Gaines

                01:00 Saying "You Hurt My Feelings"

                04:46 The Because: Because Why Not?

                07:01 Why Surface-Level Wellness Is Not Enough

                10:14 It All Starts When You Do

                14:12 Two Ways to Start Healing

                18:15 Boundaries, Business and the Cost of Free

                23:53 Hot Takes: Credentials, Safety and Anti-Intellectualism

                34:13 The Room: A Barber Shop Conversation That Changed Everything

                37:43 The Book, the Podcast and Mick's Offer

                40:15 The Unplugged Five

                44:03 Legacy, Authenticity and Kept Promises

                46:00 Closing


                Connect & Discover Kier:

                Instagram: @kiergaines

                Instagram: @learnedthehardwaypod

                LinkedIn: @kiergaines  

                Podcast: Learned the Hard Way with Kier Gaines

                Facebook: @kiergaines

                TikTok: @kiergaines

                Book: It All Starts When You Do

                Threads: @kiergaines


                FOLLOW MICK ON:

                Spotify: MickUnplugged

                Instagram: @mickunplugged 

                Facebook: @mickunpluggedYouTube:  @MickUnpluggedPodcast 

                LinkedIn: @mickhunt 

                Website:  MickHuntOfficial.com

                Website: howtobeagoodleader.com

                Website: Leadloudseries.com

                Apple: MickUnplugged



                51 min

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