Michael Levin is a Distinguished Professor in the Biology department at Tufts University and associate faculty at the Wyss Institute for Bioinspired Engineering at Harvard University. He holds the Vannevar Bush endowed Chair and serves as director of the Allen Discovery Center at Tufts and the Tufts Center for Regenerative and Developmental Biology. Prior to college, Michael Levin worked as a software engineer and independent contractor in the field of scientific computing. He attended Tufts University, interested in artificial intelligence and unconventional computation. To explore the algorithms by which the biological world implemented complex adaptive behavior, he got dual B.S. degrees, in CS and in Biology and then received a PhD from Harvard University. He did post-doctoral training at Harvard Medical School, where he began to uncover a new bioelectric language by which cells coordinate their activity during embryogenesis. His independent laboratory develops new molecular-genetic and conceptual tools to probe large-scale information processing in regeneration, embryogenesis, and cancer suppression.

Johnjoe McFadden is Professor of Molecular Genetics at the University of Surrey, United Kingdom. He obtained his BSc in Biochemistry at the University of London, and his PhD at Imperial College London. He is an accomplished scientist and author. He has written several books, including "Quantum Evolution: Life in the Multiverse" (2000), "Life on the Edge: The Coming of Age of Quantum Biology" (2014), and his latest book "Life Is Simple: How Occam's Razor Set Science Free and Shapes the Universe" (2021). His research interests include systems biology, mycobacterial genetics, pathogenicity of tuberculosis, neisserial genetics, pathogenicity of meningococcal meningitis. However, along with Prof Jim Al-Khalili, he has become best-known for his contributions to the field of Quantum Biology. Prof McFadden also endorses a theory of consciousness wherein consciousness is an electromagnetic information field (known as CEMI Field Theory).

This interview with me was hosted by Dr Tony Nader on his wonderful podcast "Consciousness Is All There Is" where we discussed the various pros and cons of different theories of consciousness. If you enjoy MBS, you will love the content on Dr Nader's channel, so please check it out, like his content, and subscribe! Let's grow the Consciousness Community! Special thanks to Dr Nader for allowing me to repost this wonderful discussion. It was recorded a year ago, and many of my views have changed (slightly) since then, however I believe it is still worth the watch/listen. Enjoy!

Curt Jaimungal is a Torontonian filmmaker and podcast host, with a Degree in Mathematical Physics from the University of Toronto. His channel "Theories of Everything" (TOE) analyses various "Theories of Everything" by exploring theoretical physics, consciousness, Ai, and God in a technically rigorous manner. Similar to Mind-Body Solution, a separating factor of TOE from other podcasts is its focus on depth even at the risk of limiting the audience due to how much detail we delve into subjects. Paralleling the intensity found in academic discourse, Curt is increasingly embracing a spectrum of unconventional ideas to conduct research during this podcast, rather than merely conveying existing information. If you enjoy Mind-Body Solution, you'll love Theories of Everything - check out his channel, like, and subscribe!

Stephen Law is a Philosopher and Author. Currently director of Philosophy and Course Director of the Certificate of Higher Education at the Department of Continuing Education at Oxford University, he was formerly Reader in Philosophy at Heythrop College, University of London. He attained his BSc in Philosophy at City University in London, a BPhil at Trinity College, Oxford, and was for three years Junior Research Fellow at The Queen’s College, Oxford, where he obtained his PhD. He researches primarily in the fields of philosophy of religion, philosophy of mind, Ludwig Wittgenstein, and essentialism. His popular books include The Philosophy Gym (2003), The Complete Philosophy Files (2000), and Believing Bullshit (2011). He is also editor of Think, the Royal Institute of Philosophy journal.

Ogi Ogas is a Mathematical Neuroscientist and Author. He attained his PhD in Computational Neuroscience at Boston University. He was a United States Department of Homeland Security Fellow during his graduate studies, and is the director of the Dark Horse Project in the Laboratory for the Science of Individuality at the Harvard Graduate School of Education. His the author of several books including “A Billion Wicked Thoughts” (2011), “This is What It Sounds Like: What the Music You Love Says About You” (2022), “Journey of the Mind: How Thinking Emerged from Chaos” (2022), and "Consciousness: How It's Made: A Super-Simple Explanation for Everyone" (2024), among several others. His work focuses on a unified account of the mind that explains how consciousness, language, the Self, and civilization emerged incrementally out of chaos. A Grand Unified Theory of Consciousness.

(0:43) - "The Hard Problem"10:50 - Subjectivity vs Objectivity

(17:00) - IIT & Panpsychism

(21:13) - Stephen Grossberg's Adaptive Resonance Theory

(28:55) - Ogi's take on Autism

(50:55) - Different States of Consciousness

(1:08:05) - UAPs/UFOs

(1:13:43) - Intex

(1:28:40) - Steve Grossberg's Incredible Work

(1:36:35) - Final thoughts on Reality & the Universe

(1:42:20) - What's on Ogi's mind right now?1:48:40 - Conclusion

Professor Karl Friston is one of the most highly cited living neuroscientists in history. He is Professor of Neuroscience at King's College London and holds Honorary Doctorates from the University of Zurich, University of York and Radboud University. He is the world expert on brain imaging, neuroscience, and theoretical neurobiology, and pioneers the Free-Energy Principle for action and perception, with well-over 300,000 citations. Friston was elected a Fellow of the Academy of Medical Sciences (1999). In 2000 he was President of the international Organization of Human Brain Mapping. He was elected a Fellow of the Royal Society in 2006. He became a Fellow of the Royal Society of Biology in 2012 and was elected as a member of EMBO (excellence in the life sciences) in 2014 and the Academia Europaea in (2015).