In our final conversation we'll talk about some other Mormon Fundamentalism groups and how the race ban & Word of Wisdom are viewed. I'll also note that Cristina got married after this interview and moved to Canada! Her new last name is Gagliano. Check out our conversation...

https://youtu.be/wBE1qyHDzAg

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Modern Mormon Fundamentalism

GT  00:32  Is there anything else we want to finish with Joseph Musser?

Cristina  00:39  The big thing that I hope people go away with is that people imagine fundamentalism being, like, old timey. Joseph Musser died in 1954. My mom was alive when Musser was. This is not old. This is a very recent separation. This is a very modern religion. That's something that I've tried to drive home so much, is that the Mormon fundamentalist movement is just another way of being modern Mormon.

GT  01:06  It's funny, because he's clean shaven, too, on your cover there.

Cristina  01:09  Yeah, he looks like a Mormon.

GT  01:11  He looks like David O McKay, practically.

Cristina  01:13  I mean, maybe. Yeah, it's a modern religion. It's a modern form of Mormonism. It is not an...

GT  01:21  McKay was the first one to be clean shaven, first LDS prophet.

Cristina  01:24  You always see the pictures. Wasn't he also the one that really kind of nailed down Word of Wisdom?

GT  01:31  No, that was Grant.

Cristina  01:35  As like a part of the temple recommend?

GT  01:36  Yeah.

Cristina  01:37  It was? Because Grant also did the 'do you associate with people.'

GT  01:41  Right.

Cristina  01:42  Heber J. Grant, am I right?

GT  01:43  Yeah, yeah.

Cristina  01:45  Yeah, and that also makes sense, too, because fundamentalists don't have the same vibe on the Word of Wisdom. I mean, I had a beer at Bee’s.

GT  01:56  You can get your Journal of Discourses and your beer and your wine right behind them.

Cristina  02:00  Yeah.

GT  02:00  I took a picture and there was a big Journal of Discourses and wine and beer right behind it.

Cristina  02:05  Yeah, I had a beer at Bees. No one else joined me. But I had a beer at Bee’s and it was totally normal and fine. It was so funny at Bee’s Market, because Bryan was wearing a John Y. Barlow shirt.

GT  02:18  Oh, that was hilarious. I hope he wears that for my interview. I'm going to get Bryan on.

Cristina  02:21  Brian was wearing a John Y. Barlow shirt and Brian went in to use the bathroom. He was going to go buy water for me and a few other people. I was ordering a beer. This little girl runs after him. It was so weird. The mom runs and gets her. One of the men at the table was like, "What happened?"

She was like, "Oh, she saw someone with John Y. on their shirt."

The men were like, "Who was it?"

She was like, "I don't know. Just some guy with John Y."

Bryan comes out and he was like, "John Y. Barlow's son is in there." Now, for everyone, John Y. Barlow's son or grandson, sorry, there are many.

GT  03:04  Yeah.

Cristina  03:05  It's like when people are like, "Oh, I'm related to Rulon Allred." You and the rest of the church. I mean, not really, but these people have big families. Everyone's related.

GT  03:16  Right.

Cristina  03:17  But yeah, they don't do the Word of Wisdom the same. A lot of them drink alcohol at church.

GT  03:24  Mild barley drinks are just fine.

Cristina  03:27  I was told that that actually means barley tea.

GT  03:31  Oh, I thought it was beer.

Cristina  03:33  Yeah, I know. Yeah. But an LDS person told me it was tea. Have you ever seen barley tea at the grocer?

GT  03:38  I've never heard that.

Cristina  03:38  No, it's not real. It's beer. I don't know a lot of fundamentalists that will drink hard alcohol,