This week host June Thomas talks to musician, conductor, and singing coach Kathleen Kelly. In the interview, Kathleen describes her daily musical practices and explains the tricky work of accompanying singers on piano. She also describes the qualities every great conductor needs. 

After the interview, June and co-host Rumaan Alam talk about what happens when countries adequately fund the arts. 

In the exclusive Slate Plus segment, Kathleen plays one of her favorite piano pieces, and then June and Kathleen try to define “talent.” 

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Podcast production by Cameron Drews.

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