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What if psychedelic healing is not just about the experience, but about what your body can actually integrate?
In this episode, Ailey sits down with Valeria, a counselling psychologist and depth practitioner, to explore the realities of psychedelic assisted therapy beyond the hype. We name the parts often left out of the conversation, including harm, power, and the complexity of what comes after.
We talk about harm reduction in a practical way, from dose and physiology to the importance of the guide’s worldview in shaping the experience. We also explore the gaps in training that continue to surface, especially around consent, somatics, and relational dynamics.
Ailey shares her own experience with MDMA assisted therapy, including the question of whether we can fully consent to something that may fundamentally change us.
We also look at integration as the real work, and why the period after a journey can be one of deep vulnerability without the right support.
If you are curious about psychedelic work, or navigating a meaningful experience, this conversation offers a more grounded and honest perspective.
In this episode:
You can read the full transcript here.
A note: Ailey shares this conversation not as a recommendation but as information. Psychedelics carry real risks, psychological, physical, legal, and aren’t appropriate for everyone. If this is a path you’re interested in, please approach it with care, do your research, and seek appropriate support. This isn’t medical advice or advocating for psychedelic usage. These substances remain illegal in most countries; this is just one perspective in a much larger conversation.
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What if psychedelic healing is not just about the experience, but about what your body can actually integrate?
In this episode, Ailey sits down with Valeria, a counselling psychologist and depth practitioner, to explore the realities of psychedelic assisted therapy beyond the hype. We name the parts often left out of the conversation, including harm, power, and the complexity of what comes after.
We talk about harm reduction in a practical way, from dose and physiology to the importance of the guide’s worldview in shaping the experience. We also explore the gaps in training that continue to surface, especially around consent, somatics, and relational dynamics.
Ailey shares her own experience with MDMA assisted therapy, including the question of whether we can fully consent to something that may fundamentally change us.
We also look at integration as the real work, and why the period after a journey can be one of deep vulnerability without the right support.
If you are curious about psychedelic work, or navigating a meaningful experience, this conversation offers a more grounded and honest perspective.
In this episode:
You can read the full transcript here.
A note: Ailey shares this conversation not as a recommendation but as information. Psychedelics carry real risks, psychological, physical, legal, and aren’t appropriate for everyone. If this is a path you’re interested in, please approach it with care, do your research, and seek appropriate support. This isn’t medical advice or advocating for psychedelic usage. These substances remain illegal in most countries; this is just one perspective in a much larger conversation.
Learn more about Ailey Jolie:
To follow along with the In This Body podcast:

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