Vicky Nguyen was just eight months old when she fled Vietnam as a refugee. Today, she's an Emmy-winning journalist, anchor and Chief Consumer Investigative Correspondent for NBC News, now seen on the TODAY Show. Her experiences inspired her new book, "Boat Baby." She joins us this week to discuss: | 00:00 — Introduction | 02:35 — Vicky's early life, escaping Vietnam | 04:53 — Encountering pirates at sea | 05:55 — Taking her first steps on the beach at a refugee camp | 07:16 — Getting sponsored to the US by churches and a family in Oregon | 09:50 — Lessons of resilience from her parents, who never complained or used the word "trauma" | 10:31 — Growing up between cultures | 11:50 — Early career lessons | 14:41 — First internship at CNN and learning to speak up in the workplace | 19:42 — Investigative reporting highlights, including probing conditions for bus drivers and food safety | 26:16 — Reflecting on mistakes and a story about a "hot intern" | 28:52 — Focus on avoiding comparison or jealousy in a brutally competitive industry | 32:50 — The pressure and joys of working in live TV + setting herself up for success behind the scenes | 34:10 — Knowing your worth and negotiating with confidence | 35:57 — Pay transparency: The surprising moment her colleague pulled out their contract to help her advocate for herself | 37:28 — Turning down a dream job at a top network | 40:00 — Coming to redefine personal success | 41:55 — Covering anti-Asian hate during Covid | 43:53 — Writing the book, "Boat Baby," and opening up about her personal life | 45:44 — Vicky's long-term vision | 47:42 — Representation in media and reflections on the "American dream" | 49:45 — Audience question from a young journalist | 52:26 — Rapid-fire round | About Behind the Business:

Behind the Business is a video series and podcast hosted by Michelle Toh, CNN and Fortune alum, that explores the decisions and philosophies behind today's most influential leaders. Recorded in person across the US, the show is grounded in the belief that business is in fact personal, providing the backstories of founders, corporate leaders, investors and creators and how they push through to make the most of both work and life each day. What's the worst day you've faced at your company? How do you cope with crisis or rejection? Or what's a pinch-me moment you'll never forget? In each episode, guests get into it all. New episodes every Thursday.

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Michelle Toh is an award-winning international journalist. She has covered some of the top stories in global business and tech, most recently as a reporter based in Hong Kong appearing across CNN's digital and television platforms. Before joining CNN, she was an associate editor of Fortune Magazine, and her reporting has appeared in The New York Times, TIME, USA Today, and the South China Morning Post.

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