That Can't Be True with Chelsea Clinton

The U.S. has the highest maternal mortality rate among developed countries, and 80% of those deaths are preventable. So why are things getting worse? Chelsea Clinton sits down with model Christy Turlington Burns (CEO of Every Mother Counts, director of Perilous Passage: Birth in America) and comedian Angelina Spicer (founder of Spicey Moms) to talk about abortion bans, labor and delivery closures, Medicaid hurdles, and postpartum depression. Plus, both Christy and Angelina share the stories of individual women they’ve met throughout the country while doing advocacy work.

You can follow Christy @cturlington and Angelina @angelinaspicer on Instagram.

Explore the Clinton Foundation’s Maternal Health Playbook here: https://www.clintonfoundation.org/clinton-policy-institute/maternal-health-state-playbook/

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What if you could get pregnant in your 40s using eggs from your 20s or 30s? You can, and more and more people are doing it. Chelsea Clinton talks with OB-GYN and fertility specialist Dr. Lucky Sekhon about how egg freezing works, what a cycle costs, and why the average patient is getting younger. They also discuss IVF, insurance coverage, grifters selling "egg rejuvenation,” and how celebrity stories, like Hilary Swank's pregnancy at 52, can leave out the full picture. Plus, a round of Fact or Fiction: Does IVF cause early menopause? Does sperm age? Can you stay on birth control while freezing your eggs?

You can follow Dr. Sekhon on Instagram @lucky.sekhon and TikTok @drluckyegg. Her book is called The Lucky Egg.

Check out our episode on fertility with Dr. Natalie Crawford.

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Peabody Award-winning physician Dr. Joel Bervell joins Chelsea Clinton to fact-check viral claims and headlines, from plague panic to raw goat’s milk to unregulated peptides, and explains why misinformation is harder to fight than ever. He also discusses how medicine was built around the white, able-bodied male, and how that bias shows up in everything from BMI to prenatal screenings to after-visit summaries. Plus, how his favorite animated show changed his life and how he’s paying it forward.

You can follow Dr. Joel Bervell @joelbervell on TikTok, Instagram, and Youtube. His new MS Now show is called Myth or Medicine and his children’s program is called The Doctor Is In.

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More than 1 in 5 people diagnosed with HIV in 2024 already had AIDS, even though we have powerful tools to prevent and treat it. In honor of National PrEP Day (October 10), Chelsea talks with Dr. Demetre Daskalakis (former CDC and NYC Health Department) and Tristan Schukraft, founder and CEO of Mistr, about HIV prevention, PrEP access, and why stigma still keeps people from getting tested. They cover the PrEP gap for women, the shift from a daily pill to a twice-yearly injection, why an STI diagnosis should prompt a conversation about PrEP, how "undetectable equals untransmittable" could help end new infections, and what it would take to make testing routine.

You can follow Demetre @drdemetre and Tristan @tschukraft on Instagram, and you can learn more about Mistr at mistr.com.

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Meditation gets recommended for everything, from anxiety and chronic pain to insomnia and addiction. But what if it's not always the harmless cure-all it's made out to be? Chelsea talks with journalist Olga Khazan, author of The Atlantic's "The Dark Side of Mindfulness" and the book Me, But Better, about the surprising risks of meditation, including a researcher's finding that it can worsen sleep and trigger psychosis in intense retreat settings. They also dig into Olga's year-long experiment reshaping her own personality — from improv classes to saying yes to everything — plus the science behind small talk and which personality tests actually hold up. 

You can follow Olga @olga_khazan on Instagram and check out her Substack at olgakhazan.substack.com. 

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Pennsylvania's measles outbreak has claimed its fourth death — all unvaccinated — even as the CDC's public dashboard shows zero. Chelsea Clinton talks with epidemiologist Jessica Malaty Rivera about the politics behind that disconnect, including RFK Jr.'s reported push to alter the CDC's count, and how "died of" versus "died with" a disease is being twisted. They also unpack the EPA's removal of cancer risk estimates from air pollution data and newly released 9/11 air quality documents.

You can follow Jessica @jessicamalatyrivera on Instagram. And check out her Substack at makingsciencemakesense.substack.com.

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This episode originally aired on October 30th, 2025.

Dr. Trisha Pasricha is a neurogastroenterologist at Harvard Medical School and author of the soon-to-be published book “You’ve Been Pooping All Wrong: How to Make Your Bowel Movements a Joy.” She’s here to talk about the three risk factors driving the rise in colorectal cancer in young adults, how we can set our kids up with healthy microbiomes and misconceptions around probiotics and bloating. As the Washington Post’s ‘Ask a Doctor’ columnist, no question is too gross for Dr. Pasricha. Plus, her advice could save your life.

You can follow Dr. Trisha Pasricha @trishapasrichamd on Instagram.

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New research from Columbia University is challenging long-held assumptions about alcohol, including what “moderate” really means and whether there’s a safe number of drinks for men and women. What does the evidence actually tell us about alcohol? Why are drinking patterns changing? And as more people reach for THC instead of alcohol, what do we know about the tradeoffs? To help us separate fact from fiction, Chelsea speaks with the study’s author, Dr. Katherine Keyes, a professor at Columbia University whose research focuses on psychiatric and substance-use epidemiology. 

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As kids head back to school, vaccines are top of mind for many parents and caregivers. That’s especially true as measles outbreaks continue in communities across the country and heartbreaking reports are coming out about measles-associated deaths. Chelsea speaks with infectious-disease physician, epidemiologist, and medical correspondent Dr. Céline Gounder about the changes to federal childhood-vaccine recommendations, a new Atlantic article about the family at the center of Pennsylvania’s measles controversy, and why she thinks of measles as a mini HIV. Plus, Dr. Gounder debunks the latest vaccine misinformation and offers practical advice on MMR, flu, and COVID shots.

You can follow Céline Gounder @drcelinegounder on Instagram and check out her Substack here: celinegounder.com.

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In his Substack, Climate-Colored Goggles, former LA Times reporter Sammy Roth writes about how climate intersects with pop culture, sports, and media – from Disney to the Dodgers. He pays close attention to solutions-oriented stories, like a recent study that found swapping out gas stoves for induction improved people's asthma. Chelsea learns how gas stoves impact air quality, why they remain so popular, and what a switch to electric – or induction – might look like for our health. Plus, they chat about where climate issues are popping up in the shows we watch, the sports we follow, and what we’re seeing online. Get ready for some TV and movie recs!

You can follow Sammy @climatecoloredgoggles on Instagram.

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