NerdWallet's Smart Money Podcast

Understand how new tariffs may hit your wallet and whether premium credit card fees are still worth it.

What do new U.S. tariffs mean for prices on everyday goods and cars? What should you consider when choosing a premium travel credit card? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the latest economic indicators and the changing landscape of credit card perks to help you understand how today’s macroeconomics and personal finance decisions intersect. Joined by news Nerds Anna Helhoski and Rick VanderKnyff, the team unpacks key insights from recent federal data drops. They begin with a discussion of the latest tariffs and economic reports, with tips and tricks on understanding how import duties impact consumer prices, why inflation could be on the rise again, and how job growth revisions may affect consumer sentiment. 

Then, credit card Nerd Melissa Lambarena joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss whether high-fee premium cards still deliver value. They cover how reward structures are changing, when it makes sense to downgrade instead of cancel, and how opening or closing a card affects your credit score.

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Card benefits, terms and fees can change. For the most up-to-date information about cards mentioned in this episode, read our reviews:

Chase Sapphire Reserve Makes Big Changes: Higher Fee, New Rates, More Perks https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/chase-sapphire-reserve-overhaul-june-2025 

Chase Sapphire Preferred Review: Strong Option for Travel Rewards https://www.nerdwallet.com/reviews/credit-cards/chase-sapphire-preferred 

Chase Freedom Unlimited Review: A Potential One-Card Solution https://www.nerdwallet.com/reviews/credit-cards/chase-freedom-unlimited 

American Express Platinum Review: Top-Notch Lounge Access, Big Credits https://www.nerdwallet.com/reviews/credit-cards/american-express-platinum 

5 Things to Know About the Bank of America Premium Rewards Elite Credit Card https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/5-things-to-know-about-the-bank-of-america-premium-rewards-elite-credit-card 

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: tariffs 2025, credit card downgrade effects, new credit card impact on credit score, consumer inflation trends 2025, unemployment report July 2025, core PCE inflation rate, job growth revisions BLS, credit card rewards explained, travel credit card comparison, high annual fee credit cards, credit card utilization ratio, closing credit card and credit score, 2025 economic outlook, de minimis exemption 2025, trade war impact on consumers, credit card strategy during inflation, interest rates and consumer debt, credit card perks vs cost, credit card churn risks, emergency fund importance 2025, how tariffs raise consumer prices, July 2025 consumer sentiment, credit card reward program changes, and economic uncertainty and spending.

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New job, more income — now what? Hear how one listener is managing his Roth IRA, health savings account, high-yield savings, and more.

Is it smart to use a Roth IRA like a savings account? How should you prioritize your money across savings, debt, and retirement after getting a higher-paying job? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola answer a listener’s question about managing multiple financial goals and choosing the right accounts for short- and long-term needs. But first, they share their money hot takes, including Elizabeth’s thoughts on Buy Now, Pay Later (BNPL) loans and Sean’s interest in stronger pro-consumer protections in light of recent federal rollbacks.

Then, they talk to listener Jake, who recently relocated for a new job and is navigating how to allocate his money now that he’s earning a bigger paycheck. Jake wants to know if it makes sense to use a Roth IRA for savings and how to simplify or optimize his mix of bank accounts. They cover how to prioritize emergency savings, retirement contributions, and future goals like a home purchase, all while avoiding analysis paralysis and making the most of high-yield savings accounts.

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: how to use a Roth IRA for savings, Roth IRA withdrawal rules, high yield savings account vs Roth IRA, best high yield savings accounts, what is a CD ladder, Buy Now Pay Later pros and cons, budgeting after a raise, how to prioritize financial goals, how to automate savings, how to manage multiple bank accounts, closing bank accounts and credit score, best place to save for house down payment, emergency fund vs Roth IRA, what to do after getting a new job, student loan repayment benefits, HSA contribution strategy, how to save for a house in 5 years, budgeting in high cost of living area, saving for short-term goals, pros and cons of online-only banks, how to overcome analysis paralysis in finance, Roth IRA vs high yield savings account, how to choose a bank, CFPB budget cuts impact, FTC click-to-cancel rule rollback, responsible use of debt, financial planning for tech professionals, credit score impact of closing bank accounts, reverse budgeting explained, safe ways to grow savings, how to build financial peace, using automation in budgeting, HSA vs IRA vs savings, debt vs savings prioritization, how to start a CD ladder, and when not to invest money.

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How to protect your credit from medical debt and choose the right way to save for a home down payment.

How does medical debt affect your credit score? What accounts can you use to save for a house down payment? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the recent reversal of a Consumer Financial Protection Bureau rule that would have removed medical debt under $500 from credit reports and explore the consequences for consumers. Joined by senior news writer Anna Helhoski and guest Rohit Chopra, former director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, they explain why the rule was proposed, what the legal ruling means for borrowers, and what consumers can do to protect themselves. They share insights on why the CFPB is vital to maintaining financial fairness and what the agency's dormancy could mean for future protections.

Then, housing Nerd Kate Wood joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss how to save for a home in today’s high-cost, high-interest-rate housing market. They dig into what emergency fund you should consider having before buying a house, how to choose between high-yield savings accounts and CDs, and why the 20% down payment myth could be holding you back. The conversation also covers how much you really should save (spoiler: it’s more than just your down payment), why closing costs are often misunderstood, and how first-time buyers can explore down payment assistance programs that offer real help.

NerdWallet's list of the best high-yield savings accounts: https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/banking/high-yield-online-savings-accounts 

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: medical debt and credit scores, saving for a down payment, CFPB medical debt rule, how to save for a house, down payment assistance programs, how medical debt affects credit, CFPB rule overturned, home buying costs, closing costs calculator, how much to save for a house, best high yield savings accounts, down payment myths, private mortgage insurance explained, how much to put down on a house, 20% down payment myth, CD ladder strategy, high yield CD rates, CD vs savings account, home equity from appreciation, real estate agent commission changes, home maintenance budgeting, how to avoid PMI, how to get rid of PMI, what is PMI, CFPB complaint database, checking credit reports, how to prequalify for a mortgage, how to calculate closing costs, state housing authority grants, and first-time homebuyer programs.

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Learn how to dodge scams to protect your money, then understand how to compare robo vs. traditional investment risks.

What should you do if your credit card is compromised in a scam? Are robo-advisors riskier than traditional brokerage accounts? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss how to spot and respond to identity theft and dig into how robo-advisors stack up to traditional investing platforms to help you protect your financial life. They kick off Smart Money’s new Scam Stories series by welcoming guest Scramble Hughes, a circus performer and scam victim, who shares a real-life experience with credit card fraud. They discuss tips and tricks on recognizing red flags like mass spam messages, acting fast by calling the number on your card (not clicking links), and filing credit freezes with all three credit bureaus. 

Then, investing Nerd Bella Avila joins Sean and Elizabeth to discuss how robo-advisors compare to traditional brokerage accounts. They discuss risk levels in automated portfolios, SIPC insurance protections, and key factors to consider when choosing a platform like account minimums, platform stability, and user experience. See NerdWallet’s top picks for the best robo-advisors of 2025 here: https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/robo-advisors 

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: credit card fraud, how to report identity theft, robo advisor vs brokerage account, SIPC insurance limits, credit freeze Experian, how to freeze your credit, credit card scams TikTok, how to know if a text is a scam, what is a robo advisor, tax loss harvesting robo advisor, ETF risk robo advisor, ETF diversification, FDIC vs SIPC, how to block spam texts, freeze credit TransUnion, safest robo advisors 2025, best robo advisor for ETFs, hacked credit card reader, RFID credit card theft, how to recover from identity theft, difference between SIPC and FDIC, scams targeting small business owners, how to secure your investment accounts, how to protect credit card information, email spam after identity theft, what to do after credit card theft, how long do fraud refunds take, when to freeze credit, best practices after identity theft, and comparing investment platform safety.

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Find out where the housing market's headed and how to help your teen build smart credit habits early.

Is now a smart time to buy a home or should you wait for mortgage rates to drop? What’s the best way to help your teenager build credit before college? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola explore these questions to help you make confident financial moves. Joined by senior news writer Anna Helhoski and housing Nerds Kate Wood and Holden Lewis, they begin with a deep dive into the current housing market, including which U.S. cities are becoming buyer-friendly and why inventory remains tight in other regions. They explain how supply levels are shifting, what’s behind rising mortgage rates, and why trying to time the market might not be your best bet.

Then, Sean and Elizabeth are joined by listeners Kevin and Simon, a parent-child duo, to explore how to set young adults up for financial independence. They discuss how to transition teens into responsible credit card ownership, tips for budgeting during college, and how to build long-term wealth with tools like Roth IRAs. The conversation also covers how to preserve credit history when closing joint accounts, how to approach investing for kids who are risk-averse, and how parents can step back while still offering support. 

Which credit card issuers allow a co-signer? See NerdWallet’s list, which includes the minimum age for each co-signer, when applicable: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/credit-cards/which-credit-card-issuers-allow-cosigner 

Use NerdWallet’s free compound interest calculator to see how your savings and investment account balances can grow: https://www.nerdwallet.com/calculator/compound-interest-calculator 

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: housing market 2024, buyer vs seller market, mortgage rates trends, housing inventory levels, real estate market by region, months of housing supply, when will mortgage rates drop, building credit for teens, first credit card for college students, how to teach kids about money, joint credit card parent child, teen money management, best credit cards for groceries and gas, starting a Roth IRA for young adults, compound interest for students, credit score for young adults, student budgeting, helping kids become financially independent, robo-advisors for teenagers, how to choose a credit card, parenting financial literacy, Gen Z and credit cards, financial support during college, how to teach credit card responsibility, when to close joint credit accounts, multigenerational banking, real estate trends northeast vs south, affordability housing 2024, new home construction trends, and immigration and housing labor.

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Budget better for group trips and explore if savings bonds still deserve a spot in your long-term investment plan.

How do you plan a trip with friends without blowing your budget — or your relationships? Are savings bonds a smart way to invest in your kids’ future? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the emotional and financial dynamics of group travel and walk through what it really takes to invest in savings bonds for education and life goals. They begin with a discussion of traveling with friends, with tips and tricks on setting clear expectations, budgeting according to your values, and managing financial boundaries. Smart Travel podcast hosts Sally French and Meghan Coyle join Sean and Elizabeth to share their insider tips for group travel, including itinerary planning, respecting different budgets, and balancing social time with solitude.

Then, investing Nerd Sam Taube joins Sean and Elizabeth to break down the pros and cons of savings bonds, including Series EE, I Bonds, treasury bonds, and more. They discuss tax implications, bond yield mechanics, and how to incorporate bonds into a long-term investing strategy.

8 Best Online Brokers for Bonds: https://www.nerdwallet.com/best/investing/brokers-for-bonds

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: traveling with friends, how to budget for group trips, friendship and money, planning trips with friends, financial boundaries while traveling, group vacation budgeting, how to say no to expensive trips, budget travel tips with friends, post vacation financial regret, peer pressure spending on vacation, savings bonds, series EE bonds, I bonds, treasury bonds vs savings bonds, when to buy savings bonds, how to cash in savings bonds, best bonds for education savings, bond yield explained, fixed income investments, muni bonds, corporate bonds, bond diversification strategy, investing in bonds for kids, bonds vs 529 plan, bond interest rates, bond tax benefits, how to buy savings bonds online, treasury direct account, cashing paper savings bonds, bond market trends, and how bonds fit in a retirement portfolio.

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Learn what the One Big Beautiful Bill Act means for your taxes, benefits, and financial planning. Then, understand how to adapt to living on disability insurance.

What tax changes are coming from the federal budget bill? Can you save money while living on disability? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola unpack the latest legislative changes to help you understand how they’ll impact your finances. Joined by senior news writer Anna Helhoski, they explain how the nearly 900-page budget bill alters the tax landscape, including extensions of Trump-era cuts, new deductions for car loan interest and tipped income, and major clean energy credit rollbacks. They also explain what the end of certain EV and solar credits means for your 2025 tax strategy and how new "Trump Accounts" for babies could factor into long-term savings.

Then, personal finance Nerd Kate Ashford joins Sean and Elizabeth to help answer a listener’s question about how to manage their finances while on disability. They cover SSDI vs. SSI, saving strategies despite income limits, and whether it's possible to start a nonprofit or invest money without risking benefits. They also discuss emotional support during life transitions, who should consider disability insurance, and how to shop for a policy while you’re still healthy.

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: federal budget 2025, tax cuts 2025, Trump tax cuts extension, new tax deductions 2025, car loan interest deduction, tipped income tax exemption, overtime income tax deduction, SALT deduction 2025, standard deduction for seniors, clean energy tax credits ending, EV tax credit deadline, solar panel tax credit expiration, energy efficient home improvement credit, Trump baby savings accounts, Medicaid work requirements, SNAP cuts 2028, ACA premium increases 2025, health insurance cost increase, student loan changes 2026, repayment assistance program 2026, graduate student loan limit, SSDI savings rules, how to save on SSDI, investing while on SSDI, SSDI vs SSI, work income limit on disability, disability benefits income cap, short term disability insurance, long term disability insurance, how to buy disability insurance, SSDI work expense deductions, how to qualify for disability benefits, financial planning on disability, and new tax rules 2025.

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In this month’s Smart Planning segment, a financial advisor discusses how to transfer retirement funds penalty-free and how to adopt a “work optional” mindset. 

How can you check in on your financial progress halfway through the year? What steps do you need to follow to move your Roth IRA from a robo-advisor to a self-directed platform without paying taxes? Before welcoming listener Dan to the show to answer his financial questions, hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola break down how you can do a mid-year money check-in, including how to audit your budget, spot and cancel unused subscriptions, increase retirement contributions, and curb emotional spending to stay on track for year-end goals. They offer a detailed checklist to assess credit, spending habits, and financial planning priorities for the remainder of the year.

Then, Elizabeth welcomes Taylor Schulte, a CFP® and CEO of Define Financial, to dive into Dan’s questions, starting with how to reallocate investments when transferring a Roth IRA between platforms. They discuss avoiding taxes using the 60-day rollover rule, how to minimize market exposure during the transition, and why custodians like Fidelity or Schwab may be better suited than Robinhood in certain situations. They also help Dan evaluate whether he’s saving enough for a “work-optional” retirement, offer guidance on budgeting for life now vs. later, and explain what to consider when deciding on insurance coverage like disability or term life.

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A rollover IRA can be a great option for money in old retirement accounts. To avoid a tax hit, know the steps involved: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/how-to-rollover-401k-roth-traditional-ira 

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: midyear financial check-in, how to track your spending, canceling unused subscriptions, Roth IRA transfer steps, rollover IRA rules, robo advisor vs self-directed investing, avoiding taxes on Roth IRA rollover, rebalancing Roth IRA, saving for retirement in your 20s, financial goals 2025, budgeting after emotional spending, how to increase 529 contributions, setting beneficiaries, updating estate plan, disability insurance basics, work-optional retirement, how much to save for retirement, starting a financial planning firm, emergency fund tips, automating savings, avoiding subscription traps, midyear credit check, reallocating investments, understanding investment fees, budgeting as a single person, how to set financial boundaries, pay yourself first strategy, how to start budgeting weekly, tracking financial progress, saving vs spending balance, transferring mutual funds, how to do a 60-day rollover, and Roth IRA transfer tax implications.

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Understand how Buy Now, Pay Later financing options affect your credit and learn smart strategies for using a six-figure inheritance wisely.

How does Buy Now, Pay Later (BNPL) affect your credit score? What’s the smartest way to invest or use an unexpected inheritance? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola discuss the evolving credit implications of BNPL services and break down how to manage a money windfall responsibly. Joined by NerdWallet’s Anna Helhoski and Jackie Veling, they begin with a deep dive into BNPL, including how it works, why it’s becoming more prominent in credit reporting, and how it can either help or hurt your credit depending on your habits. Key takeaways include how new FICO scoring models treat BNPL loans, tips for avoiding pitfalls like loan stacking, and whether BNPL is a wise tool for building credit.

Then, investing Nerd Alana Benson joins Sean and Elizabeth to help answer a listener’s question about what to do with a $124,000 inheritance. They walk through thoughtful allocation strategies across emergency savings, debt payoff, investing, and even making room for some guilt-free fun. Topics include how timelines impact where you park your money, differences between IRAs and taxable brokerage accounts, when to use a robo-advisor, and how fees can quietly erode returns.

Use NerdWallet’s free expense ratio calculator to enter your initial investment, future contributions, time horizon and projected annual return in order to compare two expense ratios and find out how much you could lose by choosing the more expensive fund: https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/investing/mutual-fund-expense-ratios 

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: BNPL credit score, FICO 10 score, how to use BNPL responsibly, BNPL and credit bureaus, new FICO credit model, inheritance investing, what to do with a windfall, best way to invest $100k, pay off student loans or invest, CD vs high-yield savings, high-yield checking account, IRA contribution limits, Roth IRA or brokerage account, how to use a robo-advisor, best robo-advisors 2025, IRA vs brokerage, investing after inheritance, compound interest calculator, how to build credit, down payment savings tips, investing timelines, financial planning after inheritance, robo advisor fees, expense ratio impact, credit building strategies, high-yield CD rates, traditional vs Roth IRA, 457 plan investing, state employee retirement options, financial windfall tax strategy, 529 college savings plan, credit score and BNPL, and BNPL late payments impact.

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Learn how to approach Amazon Prime day without blowing your budget and hear how you can start to understand the emotions that might be driving your spending. 

What are the best ways to take advantage of big sales like Amazon Prime Day but still stay on track with your budget? How can you get a handle on emotional spending and the guilt that comes with it? Hosts Sean Pyles and Elizabeth Ayoola dive into how to approach your budget, whether it’s while gearing up for a sale or just in your everyday life. Joined by Jamil Ghani, the Vice President of Amazon Prime, they begin with a discussion of what to expect during Prime Day this year, and how to get the most out of the event, including info about invite-only deals and how AI-powered tools can help you find what you need. 

Then, Sean and Elizabeth are joined by listener Catherine, who has questions about getting a handle on her emotional spending tendencies. They discuss what triggers emotional spending and how to recognize patterns of behavior. Plus, they explain different budgeting methods to help bring structure to your spending while still giving you the freedom to treat yourself without feeling guilty. 

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In their conversation, the Nerds discuss: Amazon Prime Day 2025, Prime Day shopping tips, best Prime Day deals, Amazon AI shopping tools, Prime Day electronics discounts, Amazon invite-only deals, emotional spending help, budgeting for couples, 50 30 20 budget rule, NerdWallet Smart Money podcast, money guilt solutions, budgeting apps free, impulse spending solutions, coping with financial stress, Amazon savings for students, Prime Day household deals, CamelCamelCamel price tracker, how to stop emotional shopping, financial planning tips, budgeting without a system, money values journaling, Amazon Prime VP interview, Amazon shopping hacks, setting a shopping budget, NerdWallet budgeting advice, Smart Money money questions, financial therapy alternatives, personal finance podcast, how to prioritize spending, budgeting for grad school.

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