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  • Growing Organically: The Art of Strategic Client Relationships with Andy Peters

    Episode 086: This week, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Andy Peters, Partner at Goldstein Advisors. Andy's CPA license is a rarity in financial planning, allowing him to lend a unique business and tax focus to his Financial Planner and Partner role at Goldstein. He stewards the Goldstein team, managing operations and setting the firm's overall vision and strategy.


    Kyle and Andy discuss the unique path and impressive organic growth of Goldstein Advisors. Andy emphasizes the significance of building genuine client relationships, community involvement, and a relentless focus on client-centric service. He also shares the firm's strategic approach to growth, its commitment to maintaining its culture, and its outlook on the evolving landscape of the financial advisory industry, including the role of AI and the increasing demand for tax expertise.


    In this episode:

    • (00:00) - Intro
    • (01:32) - Andy's money moment
    • (05:07) - The lessons Andy learned from Epic
    • (06:31) - Goldstein Advisors' organic growth strategy
    • (09:56) - The role of relationships and trust in the age of AI
    • (11:40) - Intentional growth strategies
    • (16:43) - The abundance mindset in managing wealth
    • (20:02) - Delivering value while staying true to your competencies
    • (26:00) - Goldstein Advisors' tech stack
    • (28:54) - The future of the industry
    • (31:10) - Andy's advice for maintaining a relentless focus on client service 
    • (32:50) - Andy’s Milemarker Minute

    • Quotes

      "The connectedness plus the focus on our clients has been our growth engine, and we've never felt the need to go outside of that because we have all the growth we can handle as it is." ~ Andy Peters


      "At the end of the day, this is a relationship business. We take care of clients, and clients trust us to take care of them. Technology is important. AI will probably become increasingly important in some ways, but I don't think any of that replaces the need for the personal connection we have with our clients." ~ Andy Peters


      "We can't be everything to everyone. If we do that, we're simply going to fail in everything that we try to do. So, we try to stick to those core competencies where we have the deep skill set and where it's not going to be automated away by AI or other types of tech tools." ~ Andy Peters


      Links 

      • Andy Peters on LinkedIn
      • Goldstein Advisors
      • Epic
      • Adam Peters
      • Fisher Investments
      • Annex Wealth Management
      • Carbone Cancer Center
      • RightCapital
      • Holistiplan
      • Jon Goldstein
      • The Hot Hand

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        • Kyle on LinkedIn
        • Jud on LinkedIn

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            38 min
          • Serving Small Markets, Making a Big Impact with Daniel Spurgeon

            Episode 085: This week, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Daniel Spurgeon, Managing Partner at Commonwealth Financial Services. They discuss building a thriving RIA in a small market, how to overcome the challenge of establishing trust as a young advisor, and how focusing on specific niches can fuel dramatic growth. Daniel also shares the journey of Commonwealth Financial Services from its humble beginnings to becoming one of the two fastest-growing firms in West Virginia, along with the technology strategy that helped scale operations and enhance client service.


            In this episode:

            • (00:00) - Intro
            • (01:07) - The story behind Commonwealth Financial Services' name
            • (02:45) - Daniel's money moment
            • (04:03) - How Daniel got into the financial services industry
            • (07:03) - The lab rat experience
            • (08:43) - Daniel's career journey and growth
            • (11:37) - Establishing trust as a young advisor
            • (13:42) - The influence of college basketball on Daniel's work ethic
            • (15:54) - The secret to Commonwealth's success and growth
            • (17:46) - Commonwealth's niche markets
            • (19:25) - The Wealth Wednesday program
            • (23:14) - Commonwealth's technology strategy
            • (26:33) - Daniel's outlook on the future of the industry
            • (34:53) - Daniel’s Milemarker Minute

            • Key Takeaways

              • In close-knit communities, word-of-mouth referrals are extremely effective. 
              • Genuine care for clients, building trust, and operating with integrity are instrumental in a firm's growth and success.
              • Honesty and vulnerability are important, especially when working with clients who may be hesitant to trust younger advisors.
              • Focusing on a specific niche has allowed Commonwealth to uniquely cater to their clients’ needs and build a loyal following.
              • Building an intentional tech stack has allowed Commonwealth to serve more clients efficiently and streamline operations.

              • Quotes

                "The biggest thing you can do as a young person or just a new person in this industry is to own the fact that you don't have experience but make up for it in a knowledge base." ~ Daniel Spurgeon


                "When things are hard in the business, and you're new, and you're not getting clients left and right, the willingness to pick yourself back up and just keep taking the next step forward is paramount because it's not for the weak of heart." ~ Daniel Spurgeon


                "People don't care how much you know until they know how much you care. If you're willing to go the extra step and take care of people, even though it may not immediately make a financial difference for you, people remember that." ~ Daniel Spurgeon


                "This world's always changing. So you have to be willing to adapt, and technology's an easy way to make things more efficient and scalable." ~ Daniel Spurgeon


                Links 

                • Daniel Spurgeon on LinkedIn
                • Commonwealth Financial Services
                • Raymond James
                • LPL Financial
                • Edward Jones
                • Merrill Lynch
                • DuPont
                • Wealth Wednesday | Podcast on Spotify
                • Shanell Jeffrey
                • Alyssa Williams
                • Orion Advisor Solutions
                • eMoney Advisor
                • Joe Duran
                • Quantitative Value

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                  • Jud on LinkedIn

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                      38 min
                    • Breaking the Mold: Foster Victor's Unique Wealth Coaching Model with Kylie Felker

                      Episode 084: This week, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Kylie Felker, President of Foster Victor Wealth Advisors. Kylie leads the firm's strategic direction and innovation. She and Kyle discuss leadership, growth, and the intentional steps to building a thriving wealth management firm. From creating a strong team culture to designing a client experience that leaves lasting impressions, Kylie shares the challenges and triumphs of establishing a leadership structure, the importance of meaningful client relationships, and how Foster Victor stands out in a competitive industry.

                      In this episode:

                      • (00:00) - Intro
                      • (02:21) - Kylie's money moment
                      • (04:16) - The unique branding and digital presence of Foster Victor 
                      • (05:52) - The origins of Foster Victor and its vision 
                      • (08:12) - A team-based approach to client service
                      • (09:18) - Foster Victor's onboarding process
                      • (14:33) - Business models and hiring process
                      • (21:47) - Creating a leadership structure
                      • (24:23) - Foster Victor's core values and operating principles
                      • (30:33) - The role of AI in financial services
                      • (31:56) - Secrets to rapid growth
                      • (34:39) - Kylie's outlook on the future of the industry
                      • (36:16) - Kylie’s Milemarker Minute

                      • Key Takeaways

                        • More families are embracing discussions about money, especially with the massive generational wealth transfer underway.
                        • Unlike firms focused solely on gathering assets, Foster Victor prioritizes comprehensive financial planning.
                        • Foster Victor operates with a team-based approach, where two wealth coaches serve as the main points of contact for each client, ensuring a more comprehensive and engaging experience.
                        • Client experience is everything. Thoughtful touches like birthday celebrations and retirement congratulations build lasting relationships.

                        • Quotes

                          "There are a lot of people in the industry who are focused on gathering assets. We really wanted to focus on financial planning. We want to build people's life plans." ~ Kylie Felker

                          "In a world full of people who often underdeliver, we are trying to overdeliver. We're trying to think about the little things, put people first, and build relationships." ~ Kylie Felker

                          "People don't like to talk about money. But that's changing. There's a desire for people to have conversations with their children and their grandchildren about where they are, how they got there, and what they want that money used for." ~ Kylie Felker


                          Links 

                          • Kylie Felker on LinkedIn
                          • Foster Victor Wealth Advisors
                          • Unreasonable Hospitality 
                          • High Road Leadership
                          • The Energy Bus
                          • The Art of Encouragement

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                            • Kyle on LinkedIn
                            • Jud on LinkedIn

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                                41 min
                              • Building a Championship RIA with Nate Lenz

                                Episode 083: This week, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Nate Lenz, Co-Founder and CEO of Concurrent. Nate has more than a decade of experience in the financial industry. His career has focused on supporting financial advisors, empowering them to succeed without the backing of big financial services companies. Nate is a leader for advisors looking to realize their potential as entrepreneurs.

                                Nate shares Concurrent's key initiatives on building a robust investment team, enhancing technology integrations to make data actionable, and addressing the talent gap in the RIA industry through a centralized wealth advisory services team. Nate also explores the trend of RIAs seeking strategic partnerships while maintaining independence and brand autonomy. 

                                In this episode:

                                • (00:00) - Intro
                                • (02:28) - Nate's money moment
                                • (07:05) - How playing football influenced Nate's leadership abilities
                                • (13:08) - Rebuilding a successful RIA platform
                                • (18:54) - What winning a championship means in the RIA space
                                • (21:51) - The talent gap in the RIA industry
                                • (27:41) - The best use of Nate's time and effort as CEO
                                • (34:41) - Concurrent's goals for the future
                                • (40:29) - The evolving dynamics of RIA partnerships
                                • (43:44) - Nate’s Milemarker Minute

                                • Key Takeaways

                                  • Teamwork and accountability are essential in business. The overall success of an organization depends on the role each member plays. 
                                  • Nate's journey from playing football to leading Concurrent illustrates the value of resilience, discipline, and commitment to team dynamics.
                                  • Building a lifestyle business requires focusing on high-quality client relationships and maintaining exceptional service levels for growth and retention.
                                  • RIAs increasingly seek strategic partnerships offering support and resources while preserving independence and brand autonomy.

                                  • Quotes

                                    "Our best opportunity is to serve the end client and to serve the advisor, so we carry that duty and accountability all the way through." ~ Nate Lenz

                                    "If you're building a lifestyle business, that's great. But recognize that in doing so, your highest and best use is going to be serving your top clients, getting referrals out of those relationships because of what you're delivering, and making sure that you're upholding those service levels, retaining that business, and growing that business." ~ Nate Lenz

                                    "Not all RIAs are created equal. The ones that are investing in people and technology and supporting the advisors affiliated with them are going to continue to grow and scale because they're going to be best equipped to ultimately serve the end client." ~ Nate Lenz


                                    Links 

                                    • Nate Lenz of LinkedIn
                                    • Concurrent
                                    • Raymond James
                                    • Credit Suisse
                                    • Patrick Jinks
                                    • Columbia University
                                    • Scott Steele
                                    • No Rules Rules
                                    • Decentralized Leadership

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                                      • Kyle on LinkedIn
                                      • Jud on LinkedIn

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                                          50 min
                                        • Building Tomorrow's Advisors with JC Abusaid

                                          Episode 082: At Halbert Hargrove, the path to sustainable, long-term success has been shaped by its commitment to developing the next generation of advisors. 

                                          In this episode, Kyle Van Pelt talks with JC Abusaid, CEO and President at Halbert Hargrove, about the company’s generational growth model. JC shares how the firm transitioned from hiring experienced advisors with existing books of business to cultivating homegrown talent through a structured internship and mentorship program. JC also discusses how Halbert Hargrove overcame the stigma of selling and the importance of separating management from client service roles to ensure efficiency and sustainability in a growing firm.

                                          In this episode:

                                          • [00:00] - Intro 
                                          • [03:01] - JC's money moment
                                          • [04:40] - Halbert Hargrove's generational growth model
                                          • [11:44] - Overcoming the stigma of selling
                                          • [17:40] - Developing the next generation of advisors
                                          • [23:12] - The Halbert Hargrove mentorship program
                                          • [26:46] - Managing time and accelerating growth effectively
                                          • [31:47] - Halbert Hargrove's tech stack
                                          • [38:08] - JC's thoughts on the future of the industry
                                          • [42:07] - JC’s Milemarker Minute

                                          • Key Takeaways

                                            • Halbert Hargrove has grown through strategic decisions and a commitment to sustainability. It involved deliberately prioritizing succession planning and developing the next generation of advisors.
                                            • Sales shouldn't be a taboo word. If you believe in the value you bring to clients, selling is about helping more people. 
                                            • A well-structured talent pipeline is crucial for any firm looking to sustain growth. Being intentional about sales, mentorship, and professional development leads to a stronger, more resilient team.
                                            • The firm transformed its internship program into a structured, meaningful experience. Mentorship and exposure to all aspects of the firm help interns understand career paths within the industry.

                                            • Quotes

                                              "A manager can only do so much, but a mentor can have way more personal conversations. They can talk about stuff even from a human resource perspective. That creates a triage where the manager has to deal with what they're measuring and hold people accountable. A mentor plays a critical role in accelerating somebody's progress through the organization." ~ JC Abusaid

                                              "You have to have a philosophy about technology and innovation where you're willing to try things, knowing that you're going to flop. Some stuff is not going to work, and you're going to go through some expensive tryouts. It doesn't matter. You have to keep trying." ~ JC Abusaid

                                              "The industry is becoming more efficient and more aware of how to scale. If you don't figure out how to outsource the stuff that you traditionally have been doing internally, you're going to have big issues in expense structure." ~ JC Abusaid


                                              Links 

                                              • JC Abusaid on LinkedIn
                                              • Halbert Hargrove
                                              • Russ Hill
                                              • Optimizing Longevity
                                              • Holistiplan

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                                                • Kyle on LinkedIn
                                                • Jud on LinkedIn

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                                                    47 min
                                                  • Serving Families, Not Just Portfolios with Rob Hoxton

                                                    Episode 081: The total value of assets under management (AUM) is often used to measure growth in wealth management, but Hoxton Planning & Management takes a different approach. For them, true success is about impact, the number of families they serve and the difference they make in their lives. With a mission to help families find happiness through financial planning and resource management, Hoxton prioritizes meaningful, sustainable growth over chasing numbers.

                                                    In this episode, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Rob Hoxton, Founder and Partner of Hoxton Planning & Management, and a 30-year veteran of the financial planning industry. They discuss how Hoxton has nearly doubled in size in the past two years, the role of organic growth and professional referrals, and serving families rather than just managing assets. Rob also talks about the impact of AI on financial planning and the key trends shaping the future of the RIA industry.

                                                    In this episode:

                                                    • [00:00] - Intro
                                                    • [02:01] - Rob's money moment
                                                    • [04:12] - Client stories 
                                                    • [07:27] - Building, selling, and buying back a firm
                                                    • [10:47] - The growth of a family business
                                                    • [13:38] - Growing a firm through YouTube and podcasts
                                                    • [16:27] - Why Rob limits his social media reach 
                                                    • [17:31] - Rob's advice to anyone who wants to start a podcast
                                                    • [20:44] - Behind the scenes of Hoxton's rapid growth
                                                    • [21:31] - How Hoxton measures success
                                                    • [24:09] - How to build meaningful relationships with Centers of Influence (COIs)
                                                    • [26:22] - The trends that affect the future of financial planning
                                                    • [32:08] - Rob’s Milemarker Minute

                                                    • Key Takeaways

                                                      • Hoxton Planning & Management measures success by the number of families served, ensuring meaningful and sustainable growth. It prioritizes impact over AUM, aiming to serve 800 families in the coming years.
                                                      • In addition to acquisitions, client referrals and strong relationships with a center of influence are primary growth drivers.
                                                      • YouTube and podcasts are excellent platforms for reaching target markets.
                                                      • Despite AI's potential to enhance efficiency, human connection oin financial advice will always be critical.

                                                      • Quotes

                                                        "Our goal is to help families be happier through financial planning and resource management. That's our internal mission, and we're passionate about it." ~ Rob Hoxton

                                                        "Chasing the dollar just makes me unhappy. I need something more meaningful than AUM or income." ~ Rob Hoxton

                                                        "If we are serving 800 families profitably, the money will be there, and the opportunities for our team will be there. We will grow, and we'll make the difference." ~ Rob Hoxton


                                                        Links 

                                                        • Rob Hoxton on LinkedIn
                                                        • Hoxton Planning & Management
                                                        • Nitrogen Wealth
                                                        • United Capital Financial Advisors
                                                        • Goldman Sachs
                                                        • Vanguard
                                                        • Last Paycheck Podcast
                                                        • Traction
                                                        • Dan Sullivan

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                                                          • Kyle on LinkedIn
                                                          • Jud on LinkedIn

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                                                              37 min
                                                            • How AI & Data Are Reshaping the Advisor-Client Relationship with Natalie Wolfsen

                                                              Episode 080: Natalie Wolfsen is the CEO of Orion Advisor Solutions, where she leads the company’s mission to revolutionize wealth management through cutting-edge technology and data-driven solutions. A champion of AI integration and personalized wealth management, Natalie is at the forefront of helping advisors leverage technology to enhance client relationships, streamline operations, and drive industry-wide transformation.

                                                              In this episode, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Natalie about Orion’s game-changing partnership with Snowflake, the increasing adoption of AI in wealth management, and how AI-driven tools are revolutionizing advisor productivity. Natalie shares insights from Orion’s latest industry surveys, addressing advisors' biggest tech challenges, integration hurdles, and the growing demand for personalized client experiences. 

                                                              In this episode:

                                                              • (00:00) - Intro
                                                              • (00:59) - Natalie's Money Moment
                                                              • (03:36) - Ascent Conference
                                                              • (06:58) - AI and data integration at Orion 
                                                              • (12:38) - Challenges and the future of tech integration
                                                              • (21:12) - Insights from Orion's wealthtech survey
                                                              • (25:53) - Why investors switch advisors
                                                              • (31:07) - Lessons from Natalie's marketing career
                                                              • (37:59) - Future trends in wealth management
                                                              • (45:25) - Natalie's Milemarker Minute

                                                              • Key Takeaways

                                                                • AI adoption is no longer optional—it’s a competitive advantage. If advisors aren’t leveraging AI for automation and efficiency, they risk falling behind competitors who are using technology to enhance client service and streamline operations.
                                                                • Data integration is the future of wealth management. With advisors increasingly relying on real-time insights, firms that prioritize seamless data access and integration will be better positioned to deliver personalized, efficient client experiences.
                                                                • Investors crave human connection—not just digital touchpoints. While advisors believe clients prefer email and digital communication, investors overwhelmingly favor in-person meetings and deeper relationships. Technology should enhance, not replace, human interactions.
                                                                • AI’s biggest impact will be on advisor productivity. Rather than replacing advisors, AI is poised to automate tedious tasks, generate personalized insights, and improve decision-making speed, helping advisors spend less time on prep work and more time strengthening client relationships.

                                                                • Quotes

                                                                  “AI and integrated workflows are actually being used by 68 percent of advisors, according to this year's wealth tech survey, which we just completed. In addition to that, 43 percent of advisors are planning increased AI investments in 2025. So if you’re not using AI, you’re falling behind.” ~ Natalie Wolfsen

                                                                  “Our new collaboration with Snowflake is going to enhance data access and flexibility for Orion’s clients. It’s the next iteration in allowing advisors to centralize their own information, both structured and unstructured, in one place.” ~ Natalie Wolfsen

                                                                  “I believe that the biggest opportunities for AI are actually on the productivity side of the equation. The biggest benefit to advisors is bringing together disparate data quickly, accurately, without asking them for too much time.” ~ Natalie Wolfsen


                                                                  Links 

                                                                  • Natalie Wolfsen on LinkedIn: 
                                                                  • Orion Advisor Solutions: https://orion.com/ 
                                                                  • Orion Advisor Technology: https://orion.com/advisor-tech 
                                                                  • Charles Schwab: https://www.schwab.com/
                                                                  • Orion Ascent Conference: https://orion.com/ascent
                                                                  • Redtail: https://redtailtechnology.com/
                                                                  • Snowflake: https://www.snowflake.com/
                                                                  • Reed Colley: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reedcolley/
                                                                  • Summit: https://summitwealth.io/
                                                                  • Eric Clarke: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-clarke-06557810/
                                                                  • Brinker: https://orion.com/brinker-capital 
                                                                  • The Demon of Unrest by Erik Larson: https://www.amazon.com/Demon-Unrest-Hubris-Heartbreak-Heroism/dp/0385348746


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                                                                      • 50 min
                                                                      • Why Most Wealth Management Tech Falls Short—And How to Fix It with Adrian Johnstone

                                                                        Episode 079: Adrian Johnstone is the CEO at Practifi, a purpose-built business management platform for RIAs and wealth management firms. With a background in financial services consulting across Australia, New Zealand, and North America, Adrian has extensive experience in regulatory compliance, technology solutions, and scaling advisory businesses. His expertise in leveraging technology to enhance client relationships and streamline operations has positioned Practifi as a leading CRM solution in the industry. 

                                                                        In this episode, Milemarker CMO and Cofounder Jud Mackrill talks with Adrian about transforming RIAs with purpose-built CRM solutions, and his journey from consulting to building Practifi. They discuss the evolving wealth management landscape, the challenge of balancing software customization with usability, and the future of AI in financial services. Adrian emphasizes the importance of thinking long-term when choosing technology and how RIAs can drive sustainable growth through better client relationships, rather than relying solely on acquisitions or market performance.

                                                                        In this episode:

                                                                        • [02:05] - Adrian’s journey into wealth management
                                                                        • [03:34] - The origin of Practifi
                                                                        • [04:09] - Practifi's team, customer base, and market presence
                                                                        • [05:40] - Practifi’s unique position and connection with Salesforce
                                                                        • [08:51] - How Practifi combines service and software to deliver value
                                                                        • [13:12] - The importance of long-term planning when choosing a CRM
                                                                        • [16:36] - Practifi's design and user experience
                                                                        • [19:51] - The role of AI and the future of CRM technology
                                                                        • [22:09] - Practifi's ideal client profile
                                                                        • [23:28] - Data ownership and integration

                                                                        • Key Takeaways

                                                                          • Generic CRMs often fall short of addressing the specific workflows, data needs, and compliance requirements of RIAs.
                                                                          • Practifi is not simply an overlay, but a purpose-built solution that leverages the power of Salesforce, offering greater flexibility and RIA-specific functionality.
                                                                          • Practifi prioritizes user experience through role-based design and clear information architecture, making the system more intuitive and efficient for teams.
                                                                          • Investing in design has been central to Practifi's success, making CRM adoption as seamless and intelligent as possible.

                                                                          • Quotes

                                                                            "If you go and engage with the Salesforce development shop on day one, and you don't speak Salesforce and they don't speak RIA, then you are not going to get the thing that you hope will work for you when you turn it on." ~ Adrian Johnstone

                                                                            "The industry is necessarily headed towards a richer relationship. CRM technology has to move forward in the process. It has moved more into the client engagement and client acquisition space and less into the efficiency and workflow space. It needs to stretch further forward." ~ Adrian Johnstone

                                                                            "You can't always just acquire your way to growth and just rely on the markets to deliver it. You also need to be able to build solid, sustainable growth organically." ~ Adrian Johnstone


                                                                            Links 

                                                                            • Adrian Johnstone on LinkedIn
                                                                            • Practifi
                                                                            • Salesforce
                                                                            • Microsoft
                                                                            • Eric Clarke

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                                                                              • Kyle on LinkedIn
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                                                                                  Turncast helps your company grow by producing top-quality content and fostering transformative conversations. We specialize in content generation, podcasting, digital strategy, and audience growth for fintech and financial services companies. Learn more at Turncast.com.

                                                                                  27 min
                                                                                • Why Specialization Is the Future of Financial Advice with Art Ambarik

                                                                                  Episode 078: In this episode, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Art Ambarik, CEO of Perigon Wealth Management, about the transformative trends reshaping the financial advice industry. They discuss the importance of specialization in financial advising, the evolving role of technology, and transitioning from a generalist to a niche-focused advisor. Art shares his journey into the industry, the importance of aligning future financial goals with present actions, and the growth and integration of Perigon Wealth. They also discuss the importance of building trust, professionalization in the RIA industry, and fostering client-centered growth.

                                                                                  In this episode:

                                                                                  • (00:00) - Intro
                                                                                  • (02:33) - Art's Money Moment
                                                                                  • (05:23) - Growth and phases of Perigon Wealth Management
                                                                                  • (10:53) - Challenges and strategies in integration
                                                                                  • (15:23) - The role of technology in financial advisory
                                                                                  • (17:31) - Professionalization and organic growth
                                                                                  • (23:37) - How advisors are becoming specialists
                                                                                  • (27:07) - Milemarker Minute

                                                                                  • Key Takeaways

                                                                                    • Embrace Niche Expertise: Specializing in specific client segments or financial areas enhances trust and positions advisors as authorities, leading to stronger client relationships and business growth.
                                                                                    • Leverage Technology for Scalability: Implementing advanced technological solutions streamlines operations, allowing firms to efficiently scale while maintaining high-quality, personalized client service.
                                                                                    • Prioritize Client-Centric Growth: Focusing on clients’ unique needs and building trust through transparency and reliability fosters long-term relationships and drives organic growth.
                                                                                    • Adapt to Industry Evolution: Staying informed about industry trends and being flexible in adopting new practices ensures firms remain competitive and can effectively meet changing client expectations.
                                                                                    • Invest in Professional Development: Continuous learning and development for advisors and staff are crucial for delivering sophisticated financial advice and adapting to the evolving landscape of wealth management.


                                                                                      Quotes

                                                                                      “ This isn't about picking the best investment. This is about helping people achieve their goals, live the life they want to live, and try to optimize their finances in a way to get there.” ~ Art Ambarik

                                                                                      “ What's happening is the professionalization of the industry. What that means is, we have colleges now teaching CFP classes and people coming out as trusted experts. They're not viewed by their peers as salespeople They're not viewed by their peers necessarily as investment specialists. They're viewed by their peers as professional financial advisors.” ~ Art Ambarik

                                                                                      “Financial advisors are going from being generalists to being experts and having more of a niche. It makes complete sense. If you're a prospective client, you're looking for trust and confidence.” ~ Art Ambarik


                                                                                      Links 

                                                                                      • Art Ambarik on LinkedIn
                                                                                      • Perigon Wealth Management
                                                                                      • Phil Hart
                                                                                      • Talking to Strangers by Malcom Gladwell

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                                                                                        • Kyle on LinkedIn
                                                                                        • Jud on LinkedIn

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                                                                                          • The Soul of Wealth with Daniel Crosby

                                                                                            Episode 077: We live in a world where numbers rule—stacking up wealth, counting dollars, and chasing financial milestones. It's a common pitfall to equate money with happiness, as society frequently portrays financial success as the ultimate goal. While money can bring freedom and opportunity, it also reveals that as powerful as it is, it remains a tool, not a solution to all of life's challenges.

                                                                                            In this episode, Kyle Van Pelt talks with Daniel Crosby, Chief Behavioral Officer at Orion Advisor Solutions, New York Times bestselling author, and the host of the Standard Deviations podcast. Daniel helps individuals and organizations thrive at the intersection of psychology and finance. His book, The Soul of Wealth, explores what wealth really is and provides practical suggestions for how to change your thinking and your actions in small, powerful ways.

                                                                                            Daniel talks with Kyle about money, meaning, and the human side of wealth. Daniel dives deep into the often-overlooked aspects of wealth, the power of conscious spending, and the parallels between health and wealth. 

                                                                                            In this episode:

                                                                                            • (00:00) - Intro
                                                                                            • (02:05) - The Soul of Wealth
                                                                                            • (06:47) - Daniel's thoughts on donor-advised funds
                                                                                            • (09:58) - The burden of wealth
                                                                                            • (17:19) - Why the influencer culture is rooted in half-truths
                                                                                            • (24:19) - The parallels between health and wealth
                                                                                            • (31:34) - New changes to Daniel's podcast, Standard Deviations
                                                                                            • (36:07) - Milemarker Minute

                                                                                            • Key Takeaways

                                                                                              • Every dollar spent is a vote for the kind of world you want to live in.
                                                                                              • Achieving financial success can bring unexpected challenges like isolation, anxiety, and a loss of purpose. It's crucial to recognize that money is a tool, not a solution to all problems.
                                                                                              • Money and online influence can provide fleeting satisfaction, but they don't replace authentic human connection, purpose, or love.
                                                                                              • It's easy to fixate on achieving a specific financial goal or level of success. However, finding joy in the journey and focusing on the behavioral and relational aspects of life are equally important.

                                                                                              • Quotes

                                                                                                "I'm always looking for ways to humanize wealth, budgeting, and investing. Understanding that the way you spend every dollar is a vote for the kind of world you want to live in." ~ Daniel Crosby

                                                                                                "Money is easy to stack. Money is easy to count. Money is easy to quantify. Because it is all those things, we treat it as a proxy for happiness." ~ Daniel Crosby

                                                                                                "The five facets of a meaningful life are fun and leisure, deep work, loving relationships, meaning, and advancement. Money is only exceptional at scratching one of these itches." ~ Daniel Crosby

                                                                                                "The belief that money is a tool that solves every problem is so hard to shake because it is riddled with half-truths. Money can't buy us happiness outright, but it can buy us the absence of misery. Money can't buy us love, but it can buy us chocolate and roses. Money can't buy us purpose, but it can buy us time to reflect on the meaning of life." ~ Daniel Crosby


                                                                                                Links 

                                                                                                • Daniel Crosby on LinkedIn
                                                                                                • Orion Advisor Solutions
                                                                                                • The Soul of Wealth
                                                                                                • Standard Deviations
                                                                                                • Eric Clarke
                                                                                                • Neverwhere

                                                                                                • Connect with our hosts

                                                                                                  • Milemarker.co
                                                                                                  • Kyle on LinkedIn
                                                                                                  • Jud on LinkedIn

                                                                                                  • Subscribe and stay in touch

                                                                                                    • Apple Podcasts
                                                                                                    • Spotify
                                                                                                    • YouTube

                                                                                                    • Produce game-changing content with Turncast

                                                                                                      Turncast helps your company grow by producing top-quality content and fostering transformative conversations. We specialize in content generation, podcasting, digital strategy, and audience growth for fintech and financial services companies. Learn more at Turncast.com.

                                                                                                      40 min

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