Long Now

Nicholas Negroponte: Beyond Digital


Listen Later

### A world of convergence
In education, Negroponte explained, there’s a fundamental distinction between "instructionism" and "constructionism." "Constructionism is learning by discovery, by doing, by making. Instructionism is learning by being told." Negroponte’s lifelong friend Seymour Papert noted early on that debugging computer code is a form of "learning about learning" and taught it to young children.
Thus in 2000 when Negroponte left the Media Lab he had founded in 1985, he set out upon the ultimate constructionist project, called "One Laptop per Child." His target is the world’s 100 million kids who are not in school because no school is available. Three million of his laptops and tablets are now loose in the world. One experiment in an Ethiopian village showed that illiterate kids can take unexplained tablets, figure them out on their own, and begin to learn to read and even program.
In the "markets versus mission" perspective, Negroponte praised working through nonprofits because they are clearer and it is easier to partner widely with people and other organizations. He added that "start-up businesses are sucking people out of big thinking. So many minds that used to think big are now thinking small because their VCs tell them to ‘focus.’"
As the world goes digital, Negroponte noted, you see pathologies of left over "atoms thinking." Thus newspapers imagine that paper is part of their essence, telecoms imagine that distance should cost more, and nations imagine that their physical boundaries matter. "Nationalism is the biggest disease on the planet," Negroponte said. "Nations have the wrong granularity. They’re too small to be global and too big to be local, and all they can think about is competing." He predicted that the world is well on the way to having one language, English.
Negroponte reflected on a recent visit to a start-up called Modern Meadow, where they print meat. "You get just the steak---no hooves and ears involved, using one percent of the water and half a percent of the land needed to get the steak from a cow." In every field we obsess on the distinction between synthetic and natural, but in a hundred years "there will be no difference between them."
...more
View all episodesView all episodes
Download on the App Store

Long NowBy The Long Now Foundation

  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6
  • 4.6

4.6

229 ratings


More shows like Long Now

View all
Freakonomics Radio by Freakonomics Radio + Stitcher

Freakonomics Radio

32,246 Listeners

The New Yorker Radio Hour by WNYC Studios and The New Yorker

The New Yorker Radio Hour

6,881 Listeners

The Tim Ferriss Show by Tim Ferriss: Bestselling Author, Human Guinea Pig

The Tim Ferriss Show

16,174 Listeners

99% Invisible by Roman Mars

99% Invisible

26,242 Listeners

Making Sense with Sam Harris by Sam Harris

Making Sense with Sam Harris

26,380 Listeners

Conversations with Tyler by Mercatus Center at George Mason University

Conversations with Tyler

2,461 Listeners

On Being with Krista Tippett by On Being Studios

On Being with Krista Tippett

10,387 Listeners

Long Now: Conversations at The Interval by The Long Now Foundation

Long Now: Conversations at The Interval

46 Listeners

The Atlantic Interview by The Atlantic

The Atlantic Interview

14 Listeners

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas by Sean Carroll

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

4,167 Listeners

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat by New York Times Opinion

Interesting Times with Ross Douthat

7,244 Listeners

The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss by Lawrence M. Krauss

The Origins Podcast with Lawrence Krauss

506 Listeners

Dwarkesh Podcast by Dwarkesh Patel

Dwarkesh Podcast

551 Listeners

Hard Fork by The New York Times

Hard Fork

5,576 Listeners

The Ezra Klein Show by New York Times Opinion

The Ezra Klein Show

16,525 Listeners

The Interview by The New York Times

The Interview

1,600 Listeners