NOT the Sermon

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  • Episode 107: "Would You Like Flies with That?"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie airs out some fresh beef with Eric and things get just a little tense. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle a round of conspiracy-themed listener questions. Then in Christian Conspiracies, they dive into the popular claim that Jesus is just a retelling of Horus—and whether there’s actually anything to it. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they discuss pastors and personality types, and how much personality should shape leadership in the church.

    It’s spicy, skeptical, and full of banter—welcome to Not the Sermon.

    50 min
  • Episode 106: "Hill-Psalms"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, sharing some behind-the-scenes conference hijinks as they and another pastor find ways to entertain themselves on the road. In Shady Theology, they tackle the rise of house churches—are they a return to a biblical model or just anti-establishment energy in disguise? In Weird Worship, they ask a question many are thinking: is worship just too loud? Finally, in Oh My, Your Greek Is Showing, the guys break down metanoia—what repentance really means and why it’s more than just saying sorry.

    It’s reflective, funny, and just theological enough—welcome to Not the Sermon. 🎙️

    46 min
  • Episode 105: "This is Why People Don't Like You"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon  talking about death row final meals. In Houston, We Have a Question, they talk about the surprising Christian history of piñatas. In How Great Is Our Pod, they debut a new spoof song, “The Spirit Is Speaking…Probably.” Finally, in Shady Theology, they unpack positive confession and the crossover between Word of Faith teachings and New Age thinking.

    It’s ridiculous, historical, and theologically spicy—welcome to Not the Sermon.


    00:00:18 – Skybalon: Death row meals

    00:11:36 – Houston, We Have a Question: Piñatas as evangelism

    00:21:11 – How Great Is Our Pod: The Spirit Is Speaking…Probably

    00:30:08 – Shady Theology: Positive confession

    47 min
  • Episode 104: "Milk Boarding"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, reacting to Eric’s new life-size Steve Irwin cutout and debating the questionable survival advice for confronting predators. In Houston, We Have a Question, they answer a listener curiosity: do they ever get pushback or flack for the things they say on the podcast? In Odd News, they cover a truly disgusting story of a man who sprinkled his own armpit hair into a restaurant meal in a “pit-full” attempt to get it for free. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they tackle whether churches should follow the traditional church calendar or stick to their own rhythms.

    It’s weird, gross, and theologically curious—welcome to Not the Sermon. 


    00:00:16 – Skybalon: Steve Irwin, running from alligators & punching sharks

    00:10:42 – Houston, We Have a Question: Do we ever get flack for this podcast?

    00:24:43 – Odd News: A “pit-full” attempt at a free dinner

    00:33:26 – Pester the Pastor: Should churches follow the church calendar?

    50 min
  • Episode 103: "The Plaid Fairy"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric proves once again that math is not his spiritual gift and Jamie finds himself getting unexpectedly plaid-bombed. In Shady Theology, they tackle kenosis—what it means that Christ “emptied himself” and why that doctrine matters more than we think. In So Help Meme God, they explore the sad (and slightly hilarious) plight of associate pastors everywhere. Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a timely question: when should pastors speak up about politics—and when should they stay quiet?

    It’s self-aware, theologically rich, and appropriately plaid—welcome to Not the Sermon.

    48 min
  • Episode 102: "Blasting Ops While Praising Pops"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie confesses to a prank he pulled on Eric, and Alex shares a traumatic tale of his personal space being violated at a Japanese restaurant. In The Bible Says Whaaat?!, they dive into Genesis 34 and unpack the infamous circumcision battle—what actually happened and why it’s in the Bible. In Houston, We Have a Question, they wrestle with violent video games and Christian content, asking where discernment fits in a digital world. Finally, in Shady Theology, they tackle church discipline—what it’s meant to be, and how it often goes wrong.

    It’s awkward, intense, and sneakily theological—welcome to Not the Sermon.


    00:00:20 – Skybalon: Jamie’s prank & Alex’s personal space

    00:10:49 – The Bible Says Whaaat?!: The circumcision massacre (Genesis 34)

    00:25:52 – Houston, We Have a Question: Violent video games & Christian content

    00:39:13 – Shady Theology: Church discipline

    50 min
  • Episode 101: "Mosquitoes Form Gangs

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie vents about the mysterious and deeply offensive concept of the “feels like” temperature during cold weather season. In Houston, We Have a Question, they tackle two listener curiosities: what is the best spiritual gift, and where did the ichthus fish symbol actually come from? In Weird Worship, they wrestle with the phrase “praise as a weapon” and whether that language helps or hurts our understanding of worship. Finally, in Shady Theology, they unpack the controversy surrounding Bethel and Shawn Bolz, including the questions around prophetic words and data mining.

    It’s thoughtful, a little spicy, and perfectly on brand—welcome to Not the Sermon.


    00:00:17 – Skybalon: Jamie’s problem with the “feels like” temp

    00:09:51 – Houston, We Have a Question: The best spiritual gift & the fish symbol

    00:23:13 – Weird Worship: Praise as a weapon

    00:33:10 – Shady Theology: Bethel & Shawn Bolz

    49 min
  • 100th Episode Live Show!: "You Turn Deer Into Spacemen"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric, joined by Producer Alex & Phoenix, celebrate their 100th episode with a live show filmed and recorded in front of a studio audience—packed with extra segments, throwbacks, and unhinged banter. In Shooting the Skybalon, they revisit their favorite moments from the first 100 episodes. In Shady Theology, they take on nondenominationalism and what it really means (and doesn’t mean). How Great is Our Pod gets a special live twist with a worship Mad-Lib, resulting in the unforgettable anthem “Nothing Is Better Than Cake.”

    Eric brings the heat in Eric’s Edumakation by breaking down what worship actually is, followed by Houston, We Have a Question, where the guys receive a live question offering from the audience. They wrap it all up with a crowd-involved game of Stand Up If… and plenty of moments you could only get from a live show.

    It’s loud, ridiculous, and a perfect snapshot of what the first 100 episodes have been all about—welcome to Not the Sermon.

    1 hr 24 min
  • Episode 99: "Chewy, Breaux, and Hazel"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie admits to using a church member as a lock-up wingman to avoid closing duties, and the guys talk about how pastors have quietly become full-time content machines. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with Christians and media consumption, asking what a healthy relationship with the digital world actually looks like. In Odd News, they cover a strange article about dogs learning vocabulary and habits from their owners. Finally, in Shady Theology, they dig into the clergy vs. laity divide and where that line came from in the first place.

    It’s honest, weird, and uncomfortably relevant—welcome to Not the Sermon.


    00:00:15 – Skybalon: Lock-up wingman & holy content machines

    00:11:07 – Pester the Pastor: Media consumption

    00:24:51 – Odd News: Dogs learning vocabulary from their owners

    00:35:29 – Shady Theology: The clergy vs. laity divide

    50 min
  • Episode 98: "Clicks, Grunts, and Curse Words"

    In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, joined by Eric’s sister, Madison. The conversation quickly goes off the rails as Jamie shares his near death experience and Madison starts sharing stories that Eric probably hoped would stay private. In Shady Theology, they wrestle with whether it’s actually okay to share ministry stats and numbers. Madison sticks around to give us even more dirt on Eric, because of course she does. Finally, in Oh My, Your Greek Is Showing, the guys break down pistis and what the Bible really means when it talks about faith.

    It’s chaotic, revealing, and sneakily theological—welcome to Not the Sermon.

    00:00:14 – Skybalon: Jamie chokes & Eric’s sister joins the pod

    00:10:15 – Shady Theology: Ministry stats

    00:22:11 – Interview: Interviewing Eric’s sister

    00:32:35 – Your Greek Is Showing: Pistis

     

    45 min

About NOT the Sermon

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NOT the Sermon is a podcast where two pastors talk about everything but the sermon. Jamie and Eric discuss faith, culture, and theology...all while roasting each other. If you are sick of sermon…

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