NOT the Sermon

In this episode, Jamie & Eric start off with Shooting the Skybalon, featuring The Crazy Halloween Lady—a woman who messaged the church calling it a “synagogue of Satan” for hosting Trunk or Treat. In Shady Theology, they explore Holiday Rituals and Symbols—from jack-o-lanterns to Christmas trees—and ask if these traditions are kosher for Christians. Then, in Houston, We Have a Question, they take on listener questions: is casting lots a valid way to discern God’s will, will Not the Sermon ever release an album, and can we guess the date of "the end"? Finally, in Eric’s Edumakation, they break down Churches and Legal Liability—what pastors and leaders need to know before the paperwork hits the fan.

It’s funny, fiery, and a little too real—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:11 – Shooting the Skybalon: The Crazy Halloween Lady

00:09:41 – Shady Theology: Holiday rituals and symbols

00:24:18 – Houston, We Have a Question: Casting lots, NTS album, and rapture guessing

00:35:11 – Eric’s Edumakation: Churches and legal liability

In this episode of Not the Sermon, the boys are back from overseas—jetlagged, dog-bitten, and running on fumes. In Shooting the Skybalon, Eric shares the chaos of losing one dog and getting bitten by the other. Pester the Pastor tackles the balance between local and international ministry. In Weird Worship they dive into whether worship teams should use backing tracks, and Your Greek is Showing unpacks three Greek words for “sin.” It’s equal parts chaos, conviction, and comedy—the perfect Not the Sermon mix.

You are in for special treat! This is an "on site" recording from a recent international trip that Jamie & Eric took. They give you on-the-ground information about the state of Christianity abroad and share some of the precious moments, mishaps, and delirium they experienced on the trip! 

In this episode, Jamie & Eric are back from India… kind of. In Shooting the Skybalon, they talk planes, trains, and autorickshaws In The Bible Says What?!, they dive into wisdom literature and how it hilariously reminds us of how dumb we can be. Then in Communion Clapback, they respond to all the snarky social media comments. Finally, in Shady Theology, they wrestle with the idea of God’s wrath—what it is, what it isn’t, and why it’s not as simple as people think.

It’s global, theological, and just the right amount of unhinged—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:14 – Shooting the Skybalon: Planes, trains, and autorickshaws

00:12:21 – The Bible Says What?!: The dumb man & Jezebel

00:22:02 – Communion Clapback: Responding to the comment section

00:34:57 – Shady Theology: God’s wrath

In this episode, Jamie & Eric start with Shooting the Skybalon, asking life’s tough questions: how much effort is too much when squeezing cheese out of the mac-and-cheese packet? Plus, Jamie shares how State Farm dumped him like a crazy ex—only to come crawling back. In Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a hot topic: should kids stay in the main service with their parents, or do they need their own space? Then in Odd News, things get bizarre with a scuba-suited man robbing a store at Disney Springs. Finally, in Christian Conspiracies, they open up the strange world of the Book of Enoch—complete with angels, demons, forbidden metallurgy, and claims the Catholic Church has been hiding it all.

It’s equal parts hilarious and thought-provoking—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:15 – Shooting the Skybalon: Cheese packets & State Farm drama

00:11:16 – Pester the Pastor: Should kids be separated from adults in church?

00:23:17 – Odd News: Scuba gear robbery at Disney Springs

00:31:45 – Christian Conspiracies: The Book of Enoch

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick off with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric accidentally plays a clip with a not-so-holy word during a staff meeting. In Shady Theology, the guys dig into the theology of speaking in tongues—what it is, what it’s for, and why it still matters. Next up in How Great is Our Pod, they debut a “prodigal” worship song with a special guest (hint, hint). Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they ask if multi-level marketing has any place in the church—or if it’s just spiritual spam.

It’s raw, funny, and loaded with the mix of memes and theology you didn’t know you needed—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:13 – Shooting the Skybalon: Bad words in a staff meeting

00:11:06 – Shady Theology: Speaking in tongues

00:24:41 – How Great is Our Pod: A prodigal worship song

00:38:23 – Pester the Pastor: MLMs in the church

In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Eric dives into the strange world of the Amish Mafia and Jamie talks about staff meeting word games. In Weird Worship, they ask if there’s a secret worship cabal—are just a handful of people running the whole industry? Then it’s on to Odd News, where they debate whether becoming a Christian actually makes you “hotter.” Finally, in Pester the Pastor, they wrestle with a practical question: is it okay for churches to track metrics like attendance and giving?

It’s bizarre, hilarious, and just the right mix of memes and ministry—welcome to Not the Sermon.

00:00:19 – Shooting the Skybalon: Amish Mafia & word games

00:09:32 – Weird Worship: The worship cabal

00:23:37 – Odd News: Are Christians hotter?

00:33:04 – Pester the Pastor: Should churches track metrics?

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, swapping stories about college football heartbreak and debating whether you’ve got a “bestie” or a “worstie.” In Shady Theology, they wrestle with the tough question: Does God cause natural disasters? Then in Pester the Pastor, Eric manages to trigger Jamie during a heated discussion on small groups—are they helpful or just hype? Finally, in Christian Conspiracies, the guys dive into a wild one: was John the Baptist actually the real Messiah?

00:00:17 – Shooting the Skybalon: College football & besties vs. worsties

00:12:47 – Shady Theology: Does God cause natural disasters?

00:24:44 – Pester the Pastor: Eric triggers Jamie about small groups

00:35:09 – Christian Conspiracies: Was John the Baptist the real Messiah?

In this episode, Jamie & Eric open with Shooting the Skybalon, where Jamie leaves Phoenix an unfortunate voicemail and Eric ends up with a female locksmith story he can’t shake. In Weird Worship, the guys unpack the social media spat between Cory Asbury and Forrest Frank—asking if worship leaders should rise above the drama and act as role models. Next, in Houston, We Have a Question, they dive into the confusing world of end-times theology by asking the big one: Who is the Antichrist? Finally, in The Bible Says What!?, they wrestle with Paul telling the Judaizers he wishes they’d castrate themselves, plus an obscure Ecclesiastes passage about casting your bread.

00:12:30 – Weird Worship: Cory Asbury & Forrest Frank drama

00:27:48 – Houston, We Have a Question: Who is the Antichrist?

00:36:35 – The Bible Says What?!: Judaizers & casting your bread

In this episode, Jamie & Eric kick things off with Shooting the Skybalon, where a Sermonot takes a stab at interpreting Eric’s dream, and Jamie goes off on people who insist on backing into parking spaces. In Pester the Pastor, the guys dig into the Billy Graham/Mike Pence Rule and whether it’s wisdom or overkill. Then, in How Great is Our Pod, they debut Goodbye Sanity—a parody of Elevation Rhythm’s Goodbye Yesterday that you’ll never hear in church (for good reason). Finally, in Shady Theology, they wrestle with the rapture—what it is, where it came from, and why it might not mean what you think.

00:00:16 – Shooting the Skybalon: Dream interpreters & parking space rants

00:10:25 – Pester the Pastor: The Billy Graham/Mike Pence Rule

00:23:33 – How Great is Our Pod: Goodbye Sanity parody

00:31:57 – Shady Theology: The Rapture