This episode originally aired as Episode 61 on August 11, 2017.

Susan Orlean is the best selling author of The Library Book, The Orchid Thief, and Rin Tin Tin. She's a longtime staff writer for The New Yorker and you can find her on Threads @susanorlean.

In this episode, Susan talks about:

• always having an audience in mind
• having supreme focus
• and needing to see yourself as a business person if you plan on doing this type of work 

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