This week we took a closer look at the creation of the heavenly bodies in Genesis 1. Teaching pastor Mike Erre argued that the lights in the heavens were meant as more than just giant balls of burning gas that separate day and night time. They're symbols of the spiritual beings who govern in the heavens, just as humans are later created to rule over Earth.

All of which opens up a lot of listener questions. What are these spiritual beings? What does it mean when we talk about spiritual warfare? And, how does the ability to rule align with predestination or election? The roundtable crew of Suzie Lind, Kevin Dixon and Tim Timmons join Mike to decode a few signs. (Listener questions segment begins at 16:30)

Plus: Suzie's Iron Dome of supplements fails to intercept a virus; Tim leaves Mike in another pickle; Mike uses the podcast to weed out lukewarm Christians and the Journey staff stages a care-frontation for Kevin's candy rage.

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