In this wide open conversation, our dear friend (and Teaching Pastor at the Table) Cece Jones Davis joins us to talk about everything heavy happening in America right now. What is a discerning, theological response to the recent mass shootings? How are guns connected to white nationalism/white supremacy? And what do words have to do with it? All of this, plus talking King Saul and President Trump, on today’s Zeitcast.

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