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  • The AI Bubble Will Pop from Equity Supply Says This $80 Billion Asset Manager | Ben Inker | GMO

    This episode is brought to you by Sarmaya Partners. Learn more about Sarmaya’s LENS ETF, their full data and comparison, including performance here: https://sarmayaetf.com/

    Ben Inker, Co-Head of Asset Allocation at GMO, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why the IPOs and subsequent shareholder unlocks of SpaceX, Anthropic, and OpenAI will bring an unprecedented amount of equity issuance and pop the AI bobble. Inker explains how this mechanism was responsible for popping tech bubbles in 2000 and 2021 and the mathematical relationship between below average equity returns and equity supply. He also outlines how this equity supply in conjunction with a slowdown in the AI buildout from realizations of an AI overbuild could send the stock market down as much as 50% with even greater pain for the most AI linked companies.

    Read GMO’s Q3 2026 Quarterly Letter: https://www.gmo.com/globalassets/articles/quarterly-letter/2026/gmo-quarterly-letter_3q-2026.pdf

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    The Fund’s investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses must be considered carefully before investing. This and other important information are contained in the prospectus, which may be obtained by following the links Prospectus and Summary Prospectus or by calling +1.215.330.4476. Please read the prospectus carefully before investing.

    There is no assurance that the fund will achieve its investment objective. The Fund may not be suitable for all investors. Investors should continue to review their investment objectives and risk tolerance periodically.

    An investment in the Fund involves risk, including possible loss of principal. Exchange traded funds (ETFs) trade like stocks, are subject to investment risk, fluctuate in market value and may trade at prices above or below the ETF’s net asset value (NAV), and are not individually redeemable directly with the ETF. Brokerage commissions and ETF expenses will reduce returns.

    ETFs are subject to specific risks, depending on the nature of the underlying strategy of the Fund, which should be considered carefully when making investment decisions. For a complete description of the Fund’s principal investment risks, please refer to the prospectus at https://sarmayaetf.com

    Metals and Mining Companies Risk. Metals and mining companies can be significantly affected by events relating to international political and economic developments, energy conservation, the success of exploration projects, commodity prices, tax and other government regulations. Investments in metals and mining companies may be speculative and may be subject to greater price volatility than investments in other types of companies.

    Management Risk. The Fund is actively managed and may not meet its investment objective based on the Adviser’s, Sub-Adviser’s, or portfolio manager’s success or failure to implement investment strategies for the Fund.

    Shares of the Fund Are Not FDIC Insured, May Lose Value, and Have No Bank Guarantee.

    The Fund is distributed by PINE Distributors LLC. The Fund’s investment adviser is Empowered Funds, LLC, which is doing business as ETF Architect. Sarmaya Partners LLC serves as the Sub-Advisor to the Fund. PINE Distributors LLC is not affiliated with ETF Architect or Sarmaya Partners LLC.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:10 AI Bubble Setup

    06:12 Equity Supply Matters More

    10:44 IPO Wave Math

    15:32 Sarmaya LENS ETF

    16:59 Dotcom Fiber Parallel

    20:32 Finding Non-AI Bets

    24:06 Passive Flows and Liquidity

    29:40 Credit Risks and Spillovers

    37:51 Can Government Backstop AI?

    41:48 Credit Stress Check

    45:36 Energy Portfolio Benefits

    48:13 Value Versus Growth Spreads

    50:10 Ex-US AI Winners

    54:34 Big Tech Commoditizes Compute

    57:00 What If Mega Caps Go Sideways?

    01:01:53 Memory: Cyclical Peak Earnings Trap

    01:05:09 The Major Crash Scenario

    01:10:44 Conclusion

    1 hr 12 min
  • Top Performing Value Investor Explains Why the Market Isn’t Overvalued and Hasn’t Hit the Blowoff Top Phase | Charles Lemonides | ValueWorks LLC

    This episode is brought to you by Sarmaya Partners. Learn more about Sarmaya’s LENS ETF, their full data and comparison, including performance here: https://sarmayaetf.com/

    Charles Lemonides, CIO and founder of ValueWorks LLC, joins Other People’s Money to discuss why the 18-year bull market still has room to run. Lemonides argues that we have not yet reached the explosive "liftoff" phase typical of late-stage bull markets and explains why the biggest gains often come right before the turn. He shares his strategy for finding "growth in value's clothing," highlighting high-upside opportunities in semiconductors, rideshare, delivery, and offshore energy. Plus, he breaks down where he sees extreme overvaluation in the market and breaks down his most compelling short positions.


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    Important Information

    The Fund’s investment objectives, risks, charges and expenses must be considered carefully before investing. This and other important information are contained in the prospectus, which may be obtained by following the links Prospectus and Summary Prospectus or by calling +1.215.330.4476. Please read the prospectus carefully before investing.

    There is no assurance that the fund will achieve its investment objective. The Fund may not be suitable for all investors. Investors should continue to review their investment objectives and risk tolerance periodically.

    An investment in the Fund involves risk, including possible loss of principal. Exchange traded funds (ETFs) trade like stocks, are subject to investment risk, fluctuate in market value and may trade at prices above or below the ETF’s net asset value (NAV), and are not individually redeemable directly with the ETF. Brokerage commissions and ETF expenses will reduce returns.

    ETFs are subject to specific risks, depending on the nature of the underlying strategy of the Fund, which should be considered carefully when making investment decisions. For a complete description of the Fund’s principal investment risks, please refer to the prospectus at https://sarmayaetf.com/

    Metals and Mining Companies Risk. Metals and mining companies can be significantly affected by events relating to international political and economic developments, energy conservation, the success of exploration projects, commodity prices, tax and other government regulations. Investments in metals and mining companies may be speculative and may be subject to greater price volatility than investments in other types of companies.

    Management Risk. The Fund is actively managed and may not meet its investment objective based on the Adviser’s, Sub-Adviser’s, or portfolio manager’s success or failure to implement investment strategies for the Fund.

    Shares of the Fund Are Not FDIC Insured, May Lose Value, and Have No Bank Guarantee.

    The Fund is distributed by PINE Distributors LLC. The Fund’s investment adviser is Empowered Funds, LLC, which is doing business as ETF Architect. Sarmaya Partners LLC serves as the Sub-Advisor to the Fund. PINE Distributors LLC is not affiliated with ETF Architect or Sarmaya Partners LLC.


    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:00 Are We in a Bubble?

    04:14 Rates Growth and Bonds

    07:04 Value Investing Reframed

    09:37 Micron Peak Earnings Debate

    11:20 Intel Foundry

    15:24 Sarmaya LENS ETF

    16:52 Sizing Themes and Diversifying

    18:41 Undervalued Challengers: Lyft & Instacart

    29:10 Energy Sector Setup

    35:40 Portfolio Construction & Shorts

    37:47 Shorting Texas Pacific Land Trust

    41:24 Royalty Trusts and Mesabi

    47:16 Retail Shorts: Casey’s & Grocers

    52:43 AI Industrials, Quantum, & Aerospace

    55:37 Offshore Wind and Conclusion

    57 min
  • The Private Credit Boom is Over: Redemption Requests Exceed Liquidity | James Elbaor | Marlton LLC

    James Elbaor, Founder and Portfolio Manager at Marlton LLC joins OPM to discuss why the private credit boom is officially over. Elbaor explains how artificial intelligence is threatening the SaaS businesses that make up over half a trillion dollars of private credit exposure, while also detailing how liquidity gates are currently trapping investors in massive interval funds like BCRED. The discussion concludes by exploring lucrative upcoming merger opportunities in the public BDC space and analyzing why asset managers utilizing permanent capital vehicles are being rewarded with premium market multiples.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:42 Private Credit Redemptions Continue

    07:03 IPO Window Shuts & Credit Fund M&A

    15:28 AI Threat to SaaS Borrowers

    16:51 Sponsor Message Plutus

    18:17 Private Credit vs Private Equity

    24:25 Systemic Risk and Wrappers

    29:15 Public vs Private BDC Gap

    34:46 Why Interval Funds List

    39:44 Alt Managers Valuation Reset

    43:33 Permanent Capital Explained

    50:17 Hedge Funds vs Private Equity

    54:41 Pershing Square Liquidity

    01:04:17 Conclusion

    1 hr 6 min
  • Energy Shock and Rate Hikes Could Cause a 2022 Style Bear Market | Eric Wallerstein | Clocktower Group

    Eric Wallerstein, Chief Macro Strategist at Clocktower Group, joins OPM to discuss why he sees substantial risk that the Fed is making a policy mistake by hiking into a supply shock that could cause a 2022 style bear market. He also explores the global coordination of rate hikes and why he believes the participation of lower growth economies like Canada indicate that this is a reaction to higher energy prices and not a substantially higher global neutral rate.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:56 Fed Hike and Higher for Longer

    02:30 Oil Driving Global Yields

    05:58 Canada and Global Neutral Rate

    07:14 Energy Crisis and Degrowth Risks

    08:44 Politicized Fed and Credibility

    11:50 Neutral Rate and AI CapEx Boom

    14:47 Inflation Outlook and Policy Mistakes

    17:20 Plutus Sponsor Break

    18:46 Key Data to Watch: Bank Lending

    20:07 Doves vs Hawks and Fiscal Drag

    23:30 2022 Style Bear Market Setup

    25:56 What Could Invalidate the Thesis?

    26:41 BOJ Hike and Yen Intervention

    31:20 Korea Silicon Boom

    35:43 Europe Under Pressure

    39:25 Middle East Outlook

    43:06 Midterm Issues: AI vs. Gas Prices

    48:34 China Oil Strategy

    52:10 Big Calls Wrap

    54 min
  • Outlook on 5 Key Commodities: Metals Bull Market is Just Getting Started (Gold, Copper, & Uranium) | Jérémie Boyer | Aurelion

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    Jérémie Boyer, co-founder of Aurelion Research, joins OPM to give his outlook for 5 key commodities. He explains why after avoiding earlier downside volatility in gold he just got the buy signal he’s been waiting for, and why the longer-term AI driven bull thesis on copper is very real and happening now. He also gives his outlook for uranium, fertilizer, and oil and discusses how he and his partner turn commodity views into a portfolio of equities that is up over 100% since inception a little over 1-year ago.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    02:16 Why Gold Could Hit 5K

    05:45 Geopolitics Over Rates

    09:24 Portfolio Positioning

    12:28 Managing Miner Cycles

    16:26 Plutus

    18:26 Bearish Oil & Fertilizer

    20:28 Oil Thesis & China Inventories

    33:23 Royalties as Exposure

    36:07 Valuing Royalty Companies

    42:48 Why Uranium Now

    46:10 Uranium Contracts & Supply

    51:10 Energy Security and Nuclear Buildout

    54:31 Copper Bull Case in AI Era

    01:00:05 Picking Copper Stocks

    01:06:43 Five Commodities Recap

    01:11:26 Closing and Where to Follow

    1 hr 13 min
  • Hunting for Value in Mining Stocks Amid Soaring Metals Prices | Freddy Brick | Muddy Waters Capital

    Precious metal and base metal prices have soared as have many mining stocks, but despite this, Freddy Brick, partner at Muddy Waters Capital says that the industry feels closer to left for dead than euphoric. He explains why that setup and the consistency of the mispricing in the sector brought them to launch a fund with the help of mining expert Darren McLean allowing them to take concentrated investments in the assets they think the market is overlooking while running lower net exposure. He also discusses how they think about hedging in the sector, why they take a bottom-up approach to portfolio construction, and how they approach short and long activism in the sector.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:28 Approach to Portfolio Construction

    07:56 Fraud Report Origin

    09:35 Block Models Explained

    15:27 Why Juniors Are Distressed

    21:19 Finding Mispriced Projects

    25:12 Venture Like Investing

    28:25 Promoters and Capital Raising

    33:43 Sentiment and Cycles

    38:28 M&A Wave Ahead

    43:27 Trading Vol and Hedging

    46:57 Long Activism Approach

    50:23 Scaling the Strategy

    55:10 When Alpha Shows Up

    1 hr 1 min
  • The Certainty Premium: What’s Driving the Tech Sector Divergence? | Jeff Keller

    Max Wiethe sits down with Capelight Partners founder Jeff Keller to dissect the massive Q3 technology sector divergence and the rapidly shifting landscape of AI investments. Keller breaks down why the market is rewarding near-term certainty in the tech sector and why he doesn’t like the "blow-off top" comparison between AI and the ARK implosion of 2021. He also gives his outlook for usage-based software vs. application software and explains the east coast vs west coast divide in assessing hyperscaler capex.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:13 Tech Sector Divergence

    05:23 Cyber Infra Valuation Risks

    08:09 Why Themes Beat Stock Picking

    12:01 Valuation and Forecast Limits

    17:35 Retail Crowding Warning

    20:15 2021Parallels

    23:33 Rising Rates and Funding the AI Buildout

    27:28 Mag Seven Return Profile Shift

    29:43 CapEx is Existential

    35:17 Meta Breakdown

    39:38 Investor Positioning Themes

    41:34 Long Biased Long Short

    43:55 What Would Break AI?

    46:26 AI Echo Chamber Risk

    49:06 Factor Awareness Extremes

    51:55 Deleveraging July Playbook

    56:58 Year End Watchlist

    58:58 Anthropic IPO and SpaceX Effect

    01:01:06 Conclusion

    1 hr 2 min
  • Time to Reduce Equity Risk: Why Underappreciated Macro Risks Could Derail the Bull Market | Warren Pies

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    In this episode of "Other People's Money," host Max Wiethe welcomes back Warren Pies, co-founder of 3Fourteen Research, to unpack why macro risks are suddenly taking control of the stock market. Pies explains his tactical decision to downgrade stocks and commodities to neutral, shifting capital into cash as the market enters a historically weak seasonal window between August 15th and October 15th. The conversation dives deep into the Federal Reserve's true reaction function, the mispriced odds of a September rate hike, and the hidden political pressures driving the committee's choices. Furthermore, they discuss the critical data behind the AI build-out, including H200 GPU availability and the potential impact of major lab IPOs like Anthropic on the broader software sector.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    01:21 Why Macro Takes Over

    03:19 Earnings Season Structure

    05:43 Upcoming Macro Catalysts

    08:24 Fed Hike Odds Mispriced

    10:37 Political Pressure on Fed

    15:29 Sponsor Break HFGM

    17:45 Coin Flip Meeting Dynamics

    19:42 Rates Curve and Term Premium

    24:54 How to Position in September

    26:53 Tech Breadth and AI Cracks

    30:17 Lab ARR Reality Check

    34:40 Tech Leadership Needed

    38:17 Data Center ROI Debate

    40:36 Election and Policy Risk

    43:44 AI Issuance Scapegoats

    47:35 Energy as Diversifier

    51:48 Anthropic IPO Impact

    55:01 Software Versus Semis

    58:28 Pair Trades and Correlations

    01:01:19 Fade Macro Risk Playbook

    01:02:55 Conclusion

    1 hr 4 min
  • Is Private Equity Broken? Why the Buyside’s Problems Are Making 2026 “The Year of the Banker” | High Yield Harry

    In this episode of Other People's Money, host Max Wiethe sits down with High Yield Harry to examine the major trends in Wall Street compensation and careers, and why 2026 may be the year of the investment banker. Harry shares data from Buy Side Hub to detail buy-side compensation trends, career mobility bottlenecks, and why private equity professionals are resorting to non-recourse loans while waiting on delayed exits. The conversation breaks down the real threat of AI automation on financial modeling and grunt work, emphasizing why finance professionals must develop real-economy operating skills to survive. They also address the surge in private credit redemptions, retail investor panic, and whether buying small businesses is replacing the traditional mega-fund career path.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:45 Year of the Banker

    03:38 Private Credit Redemptions

    07:04 Retail Flows and Gating

    10:18 Comp Trends and Hiring

    13:17 Career Pyramid Reality

    15:13 AI Reshapes Analyst Work

    17:16 Big Firms vs Small Shops

    20:27 Operators and Real Economy

    23:56 Agents and Human Edge

    26:39 Who Gets Displaced?

    31:46 Rates and Longer Holds

    37:42 Software Credit Time Bomb

    41:16 Choosing Your Career Track

    47:22 Top Jobs and Trading

    51:56 Closing Takeaways

    54:03 Banking Cycles and Layoffs

    57:03 Conclusion

    58 min
  • Ex-Goya COO on the $1.4 Trillion Family Business Opportunity in Three Consumer Sectors | Andy Unanue

    Andy Unanue, Founder and Managing Partner of AUA Private Equity Partners and former COO of Goya Foods breaks down the trillion-dollar opportunity in US food, beverage, and pet wellness family businesses. Andy shares how his experience in a family-run business shaped his firm's strategy of partnering with lower-middle-market, family-run companies across those sectors and explains how AUA unlocks 15% to 30% operational efficiencies. The discussion dives into major consumer trends, including the humanization of pets, the rise of ethnic food markets, and the impact of GLP-1 drugs on snacking habits. Finally, Andy offers actionable advice on navigating generational wealth transfers, building positive workplace cultures, and transitioning family enterprises for long-term success.


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    Timestamps:

    00:00 Intro

    00:51 Goya Roots to PE

    02:48 Market Size Focus

    04:21 Operational Playbook

    07:26 Exit Paths for Families

    09:34 PE Exits and Buyers

    13:18 Leaving Upside for the Next Buyer

    16:17 Macro Trends Tailwinds

    21:22 Beverage Bets and Risk

    28:29 Authenticity Wins Consumers

    31:41 Marketing and Internet Shift

    36:10 Deal Sourcing and Moats

    39:08 Co-Manufacturing Advantage

    41:14 Regional Brands and Add Ons

    44:56 Manufacturing Renaissance

    53:34 Wealth Transfer and Family Offices

    58:58 AUA Future and Wrap Up

    1 hr 2 min

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