Calling all women runners, especially ones going through perimenopause and menopause: Listen to this smart, insightful episode! The guest is Brooke Bussard, M.D., a certified personal trainer, health coach, and author of Outsmarting Menopause. Along with hosts Sarah Bowen Shea and Amanda Loudin, post-menopausal Dr. Brooke details:

-her personal strength routine (hint: 5x5); 

-how to start lifting heavy—and to progress; 

-how—and why— to stimulate your central nervous system while lifting;  

-the importance of doing jumping exercises;

-the drill that makes her “feel wild” as she’s doing it.

Before the guest joins around 04:57, both hosts share why they’ve been doing two-a-day workouts lately. (Spoiler: Cuz they can!) 

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