"Bitcoin capturing everything means Bitcoin has to capture the securities market."

In this powerful and wide-ranging episode of THE Bitcoin Podcast, host Walker America is joined by Steven Lubka — founder of Vibes Capital Management and VP of Investor Relations at Nakamoto — for a high-signal conversation on Bitcoin treasury companies, paper Bitcoin summer, and how institutional financial engineering is accelerating Bitcoin adoption. They unpack what “paper Bitcoin summer” really means, why Bitcoin-focused public companies are not scams, and how financial tools like equity, preferred shares, and corporate debt are being leveraged in a speculative attack on fiat.

Steven shares why these companies are not just “paper” proxies but key infrastructure for integrating Bitcoin into global capital markets — especially for institutions and jurisdictions where holding spot Bitcoin is not feasible. He breaks down the MNAV premium, the rise of MetaPlanet, and how Nakamoto is building the future of Bitcoin financial infrastructure. Plus, they riff on walking in the sun, health as proof-of-work, OTC misconceptions, ETH copycats, and why Sailor’s open-source playbook changed the game forever.

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