PARTNERS IN TRUE CRIME

ALL THE ANGLIN BROTHERS WANTED WAS A BETTER LIFE THAN THEY HAD GROWING UP. THIS LED THEM TO DOING WHAT THEY DID BEST... STEALING THINGS AND SELLING THEM. WHEN THEIR CHILDHOOD, FRED BRIZZI, CAME BACK FROM NEW MEXICO HE MADE THEM AN OFFER THEY COULDN'T REFUSE. THAT'S WHEN THEY WERE INTRODUCED TO NOTORIOUS MOBSTER MICKEY COHEN AND THE REST IS HISTORY.

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THIS PAST WEEK BOTH MOLLY AND COLT HAD THEIR BIRTHDAYS. MOLLY WOULD HAVE BEEN 28 YEARS OLD AND COLT WOULD HAVE BEEN 33. WHO KNOWS WHAT THEIR LIVES COULD HAVE BEEN HAD THEY NOT BEEN MURDERED AND TOSS AWAY LIKE TRASH. AS WE KEEP THEIR MEMORIES ALIVE WE CONTINUE TO GO OVER AND OVER THE CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE, WHICH THERE IS A LOT OF, TO SEE WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO MOVE THIS CASE FURTHER ALONG. TODAY WE BRING BACK JODY BARTH ON THE PODCAST TO GET HER PERSPECTIVE ON WHERE THE CASE STANDS NOW. JODY IS 30 YEAR LAW ENFORCEMENT VETERAN WHO HAS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE AS CSI INVESTIGATOR AND COMMANDER OF THE ILLINOIS STATE POLICE. SHE IS NOW RETIRED AND WORKS WITH PRIVATE INVESTIGATORS AS WELL AS BEING AN AUTHOR.

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THIS WILL BE PARTNERS IN TRUE CRIME'S 100TH EPISODE!!! THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONTINUED SUPPORT. TODAY CRIMINOLOGIST LAURA BRAND AND US WILL BE TALKING WITH RENOWNED DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND FORMER PRESIDENT OF CRIME VICTIMS UNITED NINA SALERNO. NINA, LIKE LAURA, IS THE VICTIM OF A HOMICIDE IN HER LIFE. WHEN NINA WAS 13-YEARS-OLD, HER SISTER WAS BRUTALLY EXECUTED BY HER EX-BOYFRIEND DURING HER FIRST YEAR IN COLLEGE. IT WAS THAT HORRIC EVENT THAT LED TO NINA'S MOTHER TO START CRIME VICTIMS UNITED WHICH ASSISTS VICTIM'S FAMILIES BOTH LEGALLY AND POLITICALLY TO MAKE SURE THEIR RIGHTS ARE BEING UPHELD AND THAT THE KILLERS ARE PUNISHED APPROPRIATELY. NINA HAS JOINED FORCES WITH LAURA TO FIGHT FOR THE VICTIMS OF THESE AWFUL HOMICIDES.

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CLARENCE AND JOHN ANGLIN CAME FROM A POOR FAMILY OF 14 CHILDREN. THEY LIVED IN A HOUSE WITH NO ELECTRICITY AND BATHED ON THE FROM PORCH IN A TUB. IT WAS THAT EXPERIENCE OF EXTREME POVERTY THAT DROVE THEM TO WANT MORE OUT OF LIFE AND THE ONLY WAY THEY KNEW HOW TO GET IT WAS TO STEAL. THEY BECAME PETTY THIEVES AS YOUNG TEENAGERS AND THAT OFTEN LED THEM INTO REFORM SCHOOLS. THAT'S WHERE THEY FIRST LEARNED HOW TO ESCAPE. TODAY WE'LL BE TALKING TO KEN WIDNER AND MIKE LYNCH TO DIVE DEEPER INTO THE BROTHER'S CHILDHOODS TO REVEAL THEIR ORIGIN STORY AND HOW THEY LEARNED THE ART OF THE ESCAPE.

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THE ONLY WAY WE ARE GOING TO GET ANSWERS IN THIS CASE IS TO GO BACK TO THE BEGINNING BECAUSE MANY OF THOSE EARLY TIPS AND POLICE REPORTS HAD STORIES THAT WERE CONSISTENT AND NAMES THAT HAVE SHOWN UP MULTIPLE TIMES LIKE JASON DILLARD.  TODAY WE ARE GOING TO DIVE INTO SOME OF THOSE POLICE REPORTS FROM THE EARLY DAYS OF THE INVESTIGATION BY THE WILSON POLICE DEPARTMENT. THESE POLICE REPORTS WERE ACTUALLY VERY THOROUGH AND DETAILED- THE OFFICER WHO TOOK THESE STATEMENTS DID A VERY GOOD JOB. WE WILL BE READING DIRECTLY FROM SOME OF THESE POLICE REPORTS SO OUR LISTENERS CAN UNDERSTAND WHY SOME OF THESE NAMES HAVE BEEN COMING UP OVER THE YEARS… WE HAVE BLEEPED OUT MANY OF THE NAMES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN DISCUSSED IN THE MEDIA TO PROTECT THEIR IDENTITIES. PAULA IS GOING TO JOIN US TO GO OVER SOME OF THESE REPORTS AND TIPS.

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LAURA HAS BEEN INTERVIEWING WILLIAM SUFF (LAKE ELSINORE KILLER & RIVERSIDE PROSTITUTE KILLER) FOR 10 YEARS TO GET INFORMATION ON HIS MISSING VICTIMS. ABOUT A MONTH AGO A WOMAN REACHED OUT TO US AND TOLD US THAT HER SISTER HAD BEEN MARRIED TO WILLIAM SUFF'S BROTHER DONNIE AND THAT THERE IS A LOT MORE TO THE STORY. HER NAME IS HEATHER AND SHE IS SPEAKING WITH US TODAY.

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KEN WIDNER'S UNCLES ARE JOHN AND CLARANCE ANGLIN.  ACCORDING TO KEN, HIS UNCLES ALONG WITH FRANK MORRIS SUCCESSFULLY ESCAPE FROM ALCATRAZ PRISON IN 1962. EVEN THOUGH THE FBI AND US MARSHALS THEORY REVOLVES AROUND THE IDEA THAT THEY NEVER SURVIVED THE ESCAPE, THEIR BODIES WERE NEVER FOUND AND IT IS STILL AN UNRESOLVED CASE. KEN IS CONVINCED AND HAS SOME PROOF THAT NOT ONLY DID THEY ESCAPE ALCATRAZ, BUT THEY MADE IT TO RIO DE JANIRO TO LIVE OUT THE REMAINDER OF THEIR LIVES.

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TODAY WE ARE CHECKING IN WITH PAULA FIELDER AGAIN TO SEE WHAT SHE THINKS ABOUT SOME OF THE NEWS THAT’S BEEN HAPPENING REGARDING MOLLY AND COLT’S DISAPPEARANCE SO LETS HEAR WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY.

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TODAY LAURA IS GOING TO SHARE WITH US SOME OTHER INTERVIEWS SHE RECORDED WITH SOME OF PEOPLE THAT HUNG OUT AT THE SCOTT HOTEL WITH BITTAKER AND NORRIS. VALERIA MIERO AND ELIZABETH TORRES WERE IN THEIR EARLY TEENAGE YEARS WHEN THEY STARTED HANGING OUT AT THE SCOTT HOTEL WITH BITTAKER AND NORRIS.  LIKE MOST OF THE TEENAGERS THAT SPENT TIME THERE, THEY WERE JUST LOOKING FOR A PLACE TO HANGOUT TO ESCAPE FROM THEIR TROUBLED HOME LIVES. BITTAKER AND NORRIS KNEW JUST HOW TO ENTICE THE TEENAGERS WITH DRUGS, ALCOHOL, AND A PLACE FOR THEM TO PRETEND TO BE ADULTS.  IT EVENTUALLY BECAME A BREEDING GROUND FOR THEIR VICTIMS. TODAY WE ARE GOING TO HEAR VALERIA AND ELIZABETH’S LAST WORDS ABOUT THAT AWFUL TIME IN THEIR LIVES AND IT’S QUITE REVEALING.  UNFORTUNATELY, VALERIA AND ELIZABETH ARE NO LONGER WITH US, BUT THEIR WORDS WILL LIVE ON.

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RIGHT AFTER WE HAD JESSE ON THE PODCAST, WE SENT HIS INTERVIEWS TO A COLLEAGUE OF OURS WHO HAS BEEN ON THE PODCAST BEFORE TO GET HER EVALUATION TO SEE IF JESSE WAS BEING DECEPTIVE. LISA RIBACOFF IS A COURT CERTIFIED PRIVATE INVESTIGATOR AND ADVANCED TRAINED POLYGRAPH EXPERT. ON THIS EPISODE SHE WILL REVEAL HER FINDINGS ON JESSE'S 2 PART INTERVIEW WITH US AND GIVES US HER THOUGHTS ON WHETHER JESSE IS BEING DECEPTIVE.

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