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In this episode of "Don't Kill the Messenger," host Kevin Goetz sits down with Hollywood power couple Paula Wagner and Rick Nicita. Wagner has worked in the top ranks of the entertainment industry as a talent agent, studio executive, and producer. She co-founded Cruise/Wagner Productions with Tom Cruise, producing blockbuster hits like the "Mission: Impossible" franchise. Nicita worked as a successful talent agent for 5 decades before turning to production and consultation. He is currently Chairman of the American Cinematheque. Together, Wagner and Nicita offer insight into cultivating some of the most successful careers in Hollywood.

Early Careers and Transition to Becoming Agents (02:21)
Paula Wagner shares her journey from actress to agent while Rick Nicita recounts his path from law school dropout to William Morris. The couple then talk about how they met.

Hollywood Speed Round and the Art of Being an Agent (14:45)
Rick talks about some famous clients including Kevin Costner and Nicole Kidman in a celebrity speed round, and the trio discuss negotiating deals, choosing the right projects, and the importance of building long-term relationships.

Memorable Career Moments (28:04)
Paula talks about her involvement with Tom Cruise in Rain Man and Born on the 4th of July, and Rick discusses shares his experiences with high profile clients.

Cruise/Wagner Productions and United Artists (32:57)
Paula discusses her partnership with Tom Cruise, and the pair share the challenges of reviving United Artists while navigating industry changes and economic crises.

The Changing Landscape of Hollywood (40:00)
The trio discuss stardom, and how it has changed over the years, delving into the challenges of creating new movie stars and the future of audience engagement and storytelling.

Broadway and Beyond (48:00)
Paula shares about her transition to Broadway producing and her upcoming projects High Noon, and The Others. The couple reflects on the art of balancing film and theater productions.

Paula Wagner and Rick Nicita's careers offer a unique, insider perspective on the genesis of some of Hollywood’s biggest names. Wagner's journey from actress to top agent, then to successful film producer and now Broadway impresario, demonstrates her versatility and understanding of the creative process. Nicita's legacy as an agent and his transition to production and consulting highlight his expertise in talent management. Together, their experiences provide for a fascinating and inside look at how stars become stars.

Host: Kevin Goetz
Guest: Paula Wagner and Rick Nicita
Producer: Kari Campano
Writers: Kevin Goetz, Darlene Hayman, and Kari Campano
Audio Engineer: Gary Forbes (DG Entertainment)

For more information about Paula Wagner:
Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paula_Wagner
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