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Political polarization has become a source of hostility and division, even among Christians. In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland explores how followers of Jesus can remain faithful in a world where political loyalties often shape our relationships, influence our speech, and compete for our deepest commitments. With political conversations around the Thanksgiving table on the horizon, Derek offers three practices to help Christians navigate disagreement while keeping their eyes fixed on Jesus.
Drawing from the Sermon on the Mount, the Hebrew prophets, and the writings of Eugene Peterson, Derek argues that Christians need a political imagination shaped by Jesus and the kingdom of God. He explores the prophetic calling to confront injustice and defend the vulnerable while treating political opponents with dignity. This requires courage, especially in a culture where outrage and contempt are often rewarded.
Finally, Derek challenges listeners to cultivate a deeper love for the kingdom of God. Political engagement matters because public decisions affect real people, but no candidate, party, or government can bring about the fullness of God's kingdom. Our calling is to participate faithfully in public life while allowing Jesus to shape our loyalties, our relationships, and our hopes for the future.
Key Takeaways
Political polarization can damage our relationships and shape our souls in ways that conflict with the way of Jesus.
The Sermon on the Mount offers a vision for our common life shaped by mercy, humility, justice, and love for enemies.
Christians can confront injustice without becoming cruel or contemptuous.
Respect does not require moral indifference. We can challenge harmful ideas while honoring the dignity of the people who hold them.
Before sharing political content online, consider whether it is true and whether sharing it will contribute to understanding or inflame hostility.
Faithful political engagement requires examining the desires that drive our pursuit of influence and power.
The kingdom of God offers a vision of human flourishing that transcends political parties and national loyalties.
Our public witness begins with allowing Jesus to form our character, speech, and relationships.
Books Mentioned
Reverse Thunder: The Revelation of John and the Praying Imagination — Eugene H. Peterson
Article Mentioned
“Three Ways to Pastor a Politically-Polarized People” https://missioalliance.org/three-ways-to-pastor-a-politically-polarized-people/
Scriptures Mentioned
Revelation 7:17
Matthew 5–7
Matthew 5:44
James 1:20
Romans 12
1 John 2:15–17
Matthew 6:33
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland welcomes pastor and author Kenneth Tanner for a conversation about his book Vulnerable God. Together, they explore the scandalous beauty of the Christian claim that God became human. Tanner shares his spiritual journey from a Pentecostal upbringing through his encounters with the early church fathers and the sacramental life of the church.
At the heart of the conversation is a profound question: What does it mean to be human as God is human? Tanner argues that Jesus reveals both what God is like and what it means to live a fully human life. In the incarnation, God embraces human weakness and vulnerability, entering into the depths of our humanity to redeem the whole creation. Rather than treating vulnerability as an unfortunate step toward glory, Tanner invites us to see it as a revelation of God's love.
Derek and Kenneth also discuss the goodness of humanity, the relationship between prayer and remembering who we are, and the ways the sacraments draw us into the life of Christ. From Jesus' baptism to the Eucharist, the conversation explores how God meets us through our embodied lives and continually calls us back to our identity as people made in God's image. This is a conversation about the transforming power of the incarnation and the invitation to become more fully human by learning to love as Jesus loves.
Key Takeaways
The incarnation reveals God's character. In Jesus, we encounter the God who embraces human vulnerability and shows us what divine love looks like.
Jesus shows us what it means to be human. His life of service and self-giving love becomes the pattern for our own humanity.
God does not abandon the goodness of creation. Human brokenness is real, yet the goodness of God's image remains in every person.
Vulnerability challenges our pursuit of greatness. The weakness of the incarnate and crucified Christ confronts our assumptions about power and glory.
Prayer helps us remember who we are. Through prayer, Scripture, and the sacraments, we are drawn back to our identity as people created and loved by God.
The sacraments embody God's grace. In baptism and the Eucharist, we encounter the mystery of God's presence through material means.
The Christian life is an invitation to become more fully human. By the grace of the Holy Spirit, we learn to love and serve others in the way Jesus does.
Books Mentioned
Vulnerable God: A Theology of the Incarnation — Kenneth Tanner
New Seeds of Contemplation — Thomas Merton
The Theological Roots of Pentecostalism — Donald W. Dayton
After You Believe: Why Christian Character Matters — N. T. Wright
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland wraps up his series on hypocrisy by asking a practical question: What does it look like to live faithfully in a hypocritical age? Drawing from the wisdom of 12-step recovery and the themes of Recovering Hypocrites, Derek explores how the Christian life moves from self-examination toward dependence upon God, reconciliation with others, and a faithful life embodied before the world.
Derek offers seven practices for people who want to live with integrity. These include focusing on your own integrity, becoming content with who God has made you to be, cultivating a cheerful spirit, remaining vulnerable, giving other people room to recover, staying alert to the triggers that lead us toward performance, and becoming the kind of person you do not have to pretend to be.
The goal is not moral perfection or a carefully managed public image. It is a life in which being and doing increasingly come into harmony. As Derek reflects on the incarnation, the wisdom of Joseph Pieper, the spiritual teaching of Dallas Willard, and the transforming work of the Holy Spirit, he invites us to trade influence for faithfulness, performance for authenticity, and cynicism for hope.
Seven Practices for Living Faithfully
Focus on your own integrity.
Be content.
Be cheerful.
Remain vulnerable.
Give people room to recover.
Stay alert to your performance triggers.
Become the kind of person you don't have to pretend to be.
Key Takeaways
The final step of recovery turns us outward toward the world God loves.
Christian integrity grows through dependence upon God's grace and the transforming work of the Holy Spirit.
Faithfulness to Jesus is a better measure of success than influence, visibility, or reach.
Contentment frees us from the pressure to manage our image.
Vulnerability is part of what it means to be human because God has embraced human vulnerability in the incarnation.
A recovering community makes room for people to repent, change, and grow.
Integrity means bringing our being and doing into greater harmony.
The kingdom of God grows through patient faithfulness rather than relentless pushing.
Books Mentioned
The Vulnerable God — Kenneth Tanner
Renovation of the Heart — Dallas Willard
Scriptures Mentioned
Matthew 7:3–5
Ephesians 2:10
Galatians 5:22–23
Proverbs 4:23
Matthew 6:1
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland sits down with pastor and author Andrew Arndt to talk about the work of the soul and the wisdom of the Desert Fathers and Mothers. Andrew shares about his own spiritual journey, from the charismatic renewal to a ministry context where charismatic spirituality has blended with liturgical and sacramental practices.
Andrew is the author of Streams in the Wasteland, a book that introduces readers to the spiritual wisdom of the Desert Fathers and Mothers. His new book, The Work of the Soul: 40 Days with the Sayings of the Desert Fathers and Mothers, takes that ancient wisdom and offers it as a daily devotional journey. Derek and Andrew discuss who these ancient Christian saints were, why their wisdom still matters, and how their insights can help modern Christians attend to the formation of the soul.
The conversation also explores the potential of The Work of the Soul as a resource for Lent. Forty days of listening to the wisdom of the Desert Fathers and Mothers provides an invitation to slow down, examine our lives, and allow God to do deeper work within us.
Key Takeaways
Andrew Arndt shares his journey from charismatic renewal into a spiritual life that embraces charismatic, liturgical, and sacramental traditions.
The Desert Fathers and Mothers offer a rich tradition of wisdom for the work of spiritual formation.
Ancient Christian wisdom can speak directly to the challenges of modern discipleship.
The Work of the Soul turns the sayings of the Desert Fathers and Mothers into a 40-day devotional journey.
Lent provides a natural setting for engaging the practices and wisdom found in the book.
The work of the soul involves slowing down, paying attention, and allowing God to form us more deeply.
Books Mentioned
The Work of the Soul: 40 Days with the Sayings of the Desert Fathers and Mothers — Andrew Arndt
Streams in the Wasteland — Andrew Arndt
Vulnerable God — Kenneth Tanner
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland explores why recovery from hypocrisy cannot happen in isolation. We need the church, but we need a church honest enough to admit its own flaws and gracious enough to make room for people who are still being transformed. The church Jesus is building has always been a messy family filled with imperfect people who need a Savior.
Derek draws from Dietrich Bonhoeffer's Life Together to explore what happens when our idealized vision of Christian community becomes more important than the actual people God has placed around us. Bonhoeffer calls this idealized vision a “wish dream.” When the illusion of a perfect Christian community is shattered, we have an opportunity to discover genuine Christian community.
The episode also explores the church as a place of grace, confession, Communion, patience, and spiritual formation. Rather than demanding that people have their lives together before they belong, a recovering community welcomes people into the process of becoming whole. Derek describes this movement as belong, believe, become. Within this kind of community, we learn to practice humility and courage alongside people who share our need for grace.
Key Takeaways
We need Christian community to recover from hypocrisy.
The church is a family, and families are messy.
A healthy Christian community makes room for honest vulnerability and ongoing transformation.
Bonhoeffer warns against loving an idealized vision of Christian community more than the actual Christian community.
Disillusionment can become a sacred gift when it exposes unrealistic expectations about the church.
The church is centered on two realities: Jesus is the Savior, and we are all people who need a Savior.
Holy Communion reminds us that we come to the table by grace.
Public shame and legalistic policies can drive sin deeper rather than creating genuine transformation.
Churches where grace abounds can become safe places for hypocrites to bring their hidden lives into the light.
Christian community should allow people to belong, believe, and become.
Virtue is formed within a people who share a common story.
Christian love makes sense within the story of Jesus' incarnation, death, resurrection, and ascension.
Jesus said our love for one another would demonstrate to the world that we are his disciples.
Books Mentioned
Life Together — Dietrich Bonhoeffer
Scriptures Mentioned
Luke 2:11
Matthew 11:29
Romans 5:20
1 Corinthians 13:13
John 13:35
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland brings his exploration of hypocrisy and virtue to a practical conclusion. Drawing from Fyodor Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov, Derek considers Elder Zosima’s warning to stop lying to ourselves. Hypocrisy is one form of self-deception, but Dostoevsky’s character Fyodor Pavlovich reveals another possibility: playing the buffoon so we never have to become the person we know we need to be. Both paths can cause us to lose ourselves.
Derek reviews the central themes of the series: hypocrisy divides our being and doing, while virtue helps bring them back into harmony. Drawing from Aristotle, Augustine, and Aquinas, he describes virtue as the formation of our character, the right ordering of our loves, and an ordered disposition of the soul. Recovery requires growing in awareness of who we are and practicing the kind of life we are becoming.
The episode concludes with four practical steps for becoming “hypocrites no more”: admitting our hypocrisy, practicing honest self-reflection, receiving God’s forgiving grace, and adopting new habits. Derek adapts the Ignatian Prayer of Examen as a practice for uncovering hypocrisy and encourages listeners to bring hidden sin into the light, receive God's grace, and develop habits that cultivate integrity.
Key Takeaways
Hypocrisy involves living as a divided person, with our being and doing out of harmony.
Self-deception can keep us from recognizing the truth about ourselves.
We can lose ourselves by managing our image or by using performance and buffoonery to avoid genuine change.
Virtue helps bring our inner and outer lives back into harmony.
Aristotle, Augustine, and Aquinas each offer important perspectives on virtue and human flourishing.
Recovery begins with honest awareness and a willingness to practice what we are becoming.
Hidden hypocrisy must be brought into the light.
Self-reflection helps us recognize why we pretend and what we are trying to gain or avoid.
God's forgiving grace is essential to the recovery process.
New habits are necessary because habits form our character.
The Four Steps of Recovery from Hypocrisy
Admit to your own hypocrisy
Bring hidden hypocrisy into the light and acknowledge the damage it has caused.
Take time for self-reflection
Review specific moments of hypocrisy and ask what you were trying to gain and what you were afraid of.
Open yourself to God's forgiving grace
Receive God's forgiveness rather than continuing to hide, rationalize, or justify your actions.
Adopt new habits
Put practices in place that help bring your being and doing into greater harmony.
The Hypocrisy Examen
Derek adapts the five movements of the Ignatian Prayer of Examen to help us examine our hypocrisy:
Acknowledge God's presence and love.
Ask the Holy Spirit for courage and insight.
Look honestly at a specific moment of hypocrisy.
Ask why you pretended, what you hoped to gain, and what you feared.
Consider how you can respond differently the next time.
Books Mentioned
The Brothers Karamazov — Fyodor Dostoevsky
Nicomachean Ethics — Aristotle
On Christian Doctrine — Augustine
Summa Theologiae — Thomas Aquinas
Scriptures Mentioned
Luke 9:24–25
1 John 1:9
Psalm 51
You can find the complete Ignatian Examen at https://www.jesuits.org/spirituality/the-ignatian-examen/
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland explores the empowering work of the Holy Spirit and its relationship to spiritual transformation. The Spirit transforms our being and empowers our doing so that our lives can increasingly reflect the integrity of Jesus. These two works belong together. We need the Spirit to form our character, and we need the Spirit to empower us to live out that character in the world.
Derek explores Jesus’ promise of “power from on high” in Luke 24 and the promise of power in Acts 1:8. The Greek word dunamis can refer to power, strength, ability, or capacity. Derek focuses on dunamis as a Spirit-given capacity to act, particularly the ability to bear faithful witness to Jesus. He then considers Aristotle’s use of dunamis as potentiality and explores the interesting connection between potentiality and action in Aristotle and Luke.
The episode concludes by challenging the limitations of self-help and willpower. We have practices for the body and soul, but we cannot recover from hypocrisy through human strength alone. The life of integrity requires our participation with the Holy Spirit. Jesus not only teaches us to love God and our neighbors. He gives us the Spirit who transforms us with God's love and empowers us to live it out.
Key Takeaways
The Holy Spirit transforms our being and empowers our doing.
Spiritual maturity requires both holiness and Spirit-empowered action.
Jesus promised his disciples “power from on high” before sending them into the world.
Dunamis can describe power, ability, capability, or capacity.
The Spirit gives us a capacity to act faithfully as witnesses to Jesus.
Aristotle’s concept of dunamis offers an interesting philosophical comparison with Luke’s use of the word.
The Spirit's power becomes visible through faithful action.
Recovering from hypocrisy requires more than self-help or willpower.
The practices of spiritual formation require the empowering presence of the Holy Spirit.
The life of integrity is a willingness to open ourselves to the Spirit’s power.
The Spirit both transforms us into people who love and empowers us to live out that love.
Books Mentioned
Pentecostal Theology and the Christian Spiritual Tradition — Simon Chan
Scriptures Mentioned
Luke 24:46–49
Acts 1:1–8
Matthew 16:24–26
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland continues exploring what it means to be a hybrid creature, both body and soul. While the previous episode focused on practices for the body, this episode turns inward to the soul. We are physical creatures, but what we see in the mirror is not all that we are. We are also spiritual beings with the capacity to commune with our Creator.
Drawing from Romans 8 and Eugene Peterson, Derek describes Christian spirituality as an embodied experience of life in the Holy Spirit. Our culture can reduce us to what we produce, accomplish, and project to others, but Christian spirituality reminds us that there is more to us than usefulness and reputation. We have an interior life that requires our attention.
Derek then explores four practices for tending to the soul: silence, stillness, Sabbath, and Scripture reading. These practices help clear away the noise, motion, misplaced identities, and competing stories that can shape our interior lives. Ultimately, each is a form of prayer because prayer is more than the words we speak to God. Prayer includes the practices through which we intentionally attend to the presence of God.
Key Takeaways
Human beings are hybrid creatures, both physical and spiritual.
Christian spirituality is an embodied experience of life in the Holy Spirit.
We are more than our usefulness, productivity, appearance, and reputation.
Our interior life can easily be neglected in a culture focused on performance.
Silence prevents noise from cluttering our souls.
Stillness interrupts the constant motion that allows us to ignore our souls.
Sabbath helps prevent us from confusing who we are with what we accomplish.
Scripture keeps us rooted in God's story rather than allowing competing stories to shape us.
Narrative is a way of knowing ourselves, one another, and God.
Jesus is the central character of the biblical story, a story upon which we can build our lives.
Silence, stillness, Sabbath, and Scripture reading are all forms of prayer that help us attend to God's presence.
Books Mentioned
Eat This Book — Eugene Peterson
The Deeply Formed Life — Rich Villodas
Scriptures Mentioned
Romans 8:5–6
Genesis 2:7
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland explores the often-overlooked role of the body in Christian spiritual formation. Because we are embodied people, following Jesus involves more than what happens in our thoughts, emotions, and souls. Rooted in the incarnation, Christian spirituality is an embodied experience. Jesus, the Word made flesh, demonstrates the goodness and importance of the human body.
Derek draws from Eugene Peterson, Athanasius, Thomas Merton, and his own experience to consider the connection between body and soul. He argues that caring for our bodies is part of becoming like Jesus and encourages listeners to develop regular practices of movement. Whether running, walking, hiking, biking, swimming, gardening, playing with children, or simply taking the stairs, the goal is not intensity or athletic achievement. The goal is cultivating a life of movement and recognizing that what we do with our bodies matters.
Key Takeaways
Christian spirituality is an embodied experience.
Our bodies are good, created by God, and essential to our human experience.
Jesus took on a human body and elevated the goodness of embodied life.
Body and soul are integrated rather than competing parts of who we are.
What happens to our bodies affects our souls, and what happens within us can affect our bodies.
Physical training has value, even though it is not the ultimate goal of Christian life.
Spiritual formation includes intentional practices for the body.
Movement can be a simple and sustainable practice for caring for the body.
The goal is not necessarily intensity, but developing regular habits of movement.
Find forms of movement you enjoy and cultivate a life of staying on the move.
Books Mentioned
Christ Plays in Ten Thousand Places — Eugene Peterson
On the Incarnation — Athanasius
New Seeds of Contemplation — Thomas Merton
Scriptures Mentioned
Psalm 139:13–14
1 Corinthians 6:19
1 Timothy 4:8
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In this episode of Peaceable and Kind, Derek Vreeland explores the Holy Spirit’s role in transforming our character. The ancient virtue tradition gives us a valuable framework for understanding how good habits are formed, but Christian faith recognizes a deeper problem: human corruption reaches into the heart. We need more than moral education and greater effort. We need the transforming work of the Holy Spirit.
Derek explores Paul’s understanding of virtue through the “fruit of the Spirit” in Galatians 5 and Paul’s powerful description of transformation in 2 Corinthians 3. The Spirit does not simply improve us by adding something we lack. The Spirit changes us from the inside out, making us more like Jesus. Derek uses the image of a caterpillar becoming a monarch butterfly to illustrate Paul’s language of metamorphosis.
The episode also explores how we participate in this transformation. We can remain idle, work against the Spirit, or work with the Spirit by practicing the habits that Christians have used for centuries to place themselves where the Spirit can shape them. Derek then turns to one of the Spirit’s central works in spiritual formation: reordering our loves. Drawing from Augustine, he explains how the Spirit reshapes our desires so that we learn to love God, ourselves, others, and creation in their proper order.
Key Takeaways
Human effort alone cannot overcome the corruption of the human heart.
Christian virtue requires the transforming work of the Holy Spirit.
Paul describes what Aristotle calls virtue as the “fruit of the Spirit.”
Spiritual transformation is a fundamental change in who we are, not merely an improvement in behavior.
The Holy Spirit transforms us from the inside out while inviting our participation.
Practicing virtue is one way we cooperate with the Spirit’s transforming work.
The Spirit reorders our loves and desires according to God's design.
Courage and humility are both expressions of a heart being shaped by the love of God.
Spiritual formation is ultimately about becoming more like Jesus.
Books Mentioned
Nicomachean Ethics — Aristotle
On Christian Doctrine — Augustine
Scriptures Mentioned
Jeremiah 17:3, 5, 9
Matthew 15:17–20
John 3:6
Philippians 4:8
Galatians 5:19–23
2 Corinthians 3:6, 17–18
Jeremiah 31:33
Romans 5:5
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