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  • Ep 25: The Malignant Narcissist's Mind | Stairway to Evil

    In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) delve into the complex and dark characteristics of malignant narcissism, exploring its origins, characteristics, and using examples from popular culture, particularly the film 'American Psycho'. Citing Eric Fromm’s original work on defining evil, we discuss his triad of: necrophilious orientation, incestuous symbiosis, and malignant narcissism. Using connections to historical figures and Alfred Hitchcock's ‘Psycho,’ we briefly explore what this triad looks like. After drawing on research across the decades to define characteristics of malignant narcissism, we further discuss the spectrum of antisocial behavior, aggression, sadism, and paranoia prominent in these types. While discussing how malignant narcissists operate in personal relationships and positions of power, we end by exploring the overlap of malignant narcissism and psychopathy.

    Chapters

    00:41 History of Malignant Narcissism's Path to Evil
    01:16 Fromm's Triad of Evil Overview
    03:35 Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho Example
    06:23 Early Research on Malignant Narcissism
    09:24 The 4 Characteristics of Malignant Narcissism
    09:43 Symptom 1: Narcissistic Core
    12:36 Symptom 2: Antisocial Behavior
    14:27 Malignant Narcissism vs Antisocial Personality Disorder
    16:25 Symptom 3: Sadism or Aggression
    21:58 Malignant Narcissism in Relationships
    23:01 Symptom 4: Paranoia and Verge of Psychosis
    25:02 Malignant Narcissism vs. Psychopathy
    26:41 Where We Find Them and Why We Follow Them

    30 min
  • Ep 24: The Communal Narcissist's Altruistic Illusion

    In this episode of The Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the tricky topic of communal narcissism, exploring its characteristics, behaviors, and the environments in which these individuals thrive. We discuss the distinction between agentic and communal traits, the illusion of selflessness, and how communal narcissists often deceive themselves and others. We further highlight the presence of communal narcissism in charities, social media, and religious organizations. By examining the darker aspects of this personality type, we discuss insights about collective narcissism and the potential for harmful group dynamics. The episode concludes with insights on recognizing communal narcissism in relationships and its correlation with wealth and power.

    Chapters

    00:00 Intro & History of Communal Narcissism
    03:40 What is Communal Narcissism?
    05:39 Where Communal Narcissists Show Up
    09:22 Social Media in Communal Narcissism
    12:15 Communal Narcissism in Religious Settings
    13:36 Cults and Collective Narcissism
    18:31 Communal Narcissism in Politics
    19:42 Recognizing the Signs of Communal Narcissism
    23:17 Communal Narcissism in Relationships
    26:37 Summary and Key Takeaways

    29 min
  • Ep 23: The 4 Narcissistic Subtypes You Need to Know

    In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) explore the complex world of narcissism, focusing on its various subtypes. We unpack grandiose narcissism, its characteristics, as well as fun names in history. Our conversation transitions to communal narcissism, highlighting its deceptive nature and how it can manifest in social settings and religious communities. Next, we examine malignant narcissism, the most severe form, characterized by antisocial, paranoid, and sadistic traits. Lastly, we uncover vulnerable narcissism and the tricky, inside-out way they show up in relationships. The episode concludes with a comparative analysis of danger in these narcissistic subtypes, urging listeners and viewers to beware!

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Grandiose Narcissism
    12:00 Understanding Communal Narcissism
    22:04 The Complexities of Malignant Narcissism
    32:18 Exploring Vulnerable Narcissism
    40:32 Most Dangerous Subtypes Ranked

    45 min
  • Ep 22: Vulnerable and Grandiose Narcissism | The Mirror Has Two Faces

    In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) delve into the complexities of pathological narcissism, exploring its various expressions, including covert, overt, grandiose, and vulnerable narcissism. We discuss how these themes of overt and covert narcissism appear in all narcissistic individuals, as do grandiose and vulnerable themes. We articulate how covert narcissism is under the surface in thoughts and fantasies, whereas overt narcissism is behavioral. We also highlight the shiny, extroverted themes of grandiose narcissism, while discussing the underlying emotional issues associated with vulnerable narcissism, including shame, anger, and moodiness. We overall emphasize the overlap between grandiose and vulnerable narcissism, detailing that both can coexist within a single individual, leading to a range of ways pathological narcissism can present.

    Chapters

    00:00 Introduction to Pathological Narcissism
    03:26 Distinguishing Between Covert and Overt Narcissism
    09:39 Exploring Grandiose and Vulnerable Narcissistic Themes
    12:37 The Psyche of Grandiose Narcissism
    19:54 The Psyche of Vulnerable Narcissism
    30:10 Similarities Between Grandiose and Vulnerable Narcissism
    33:19 Summary and Closing

    References

    • Akhtar, S. (2000). The shy narcissist. In J. Sandler, R. Michels, & P. Fonagy (Eds.), Changing ideas in a changing world: The revolution in psychoanalysis: Essays in honour of Arnold Cooper, (pp. 111-119).
    • Blaney, P. H., Krueger, R. F., Millon, T. (Eds.). (2014). Oxford textbook of psychopathology (3rd ed.). Oxford University Press.
    • Kernberg, O. F. (2009). Narcissistic personality disorders: Part 1[Editorial]. Psychiatric Annals, 39(3), 105–107, 110, 164–166.
    • Horowitz, M. (2009). Clinical phenomenology of narcissistic pathology. Psychiatric Annals, 39(3), 124–128.
    • Pincus, A. L., & Roche, M. J. (2011). Narcissistic grandiosity and narcissistic vulnerability. In W. K. Campbell & J. D. Miller (Eds.), The handbook of narcissism and narcissistic personality disorder: Theoretical approaches, empirical findings, and treatments (pp. 31–40). John Wiley & Sons.
    • Wink, P. (1991). Two faces of narcissism. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 61(4), 590–597 Personality Couch Links Website https://www.personalitycouch.com/ Blog https://www.personalitycouch.com/blog/ Instagram https://www.instagram.com/personalitycouch/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/personalitycouch #mentalhealthpodcast #mentalhealthprofessionals #mentalhealth #narcissisticpersonality #narcissism #narcissist #narcissitic #personalitydisorder #personality #personalitypsychology #narcissisticabuse #narcissismawareness #bpd #borderline #borderlinepersonalitydisorder #borderlinepersonality #toxicrelationships #vulnerablenarcissism #grandiose #covertnarcissist #overtnarcissist
    • 36 min
    • Ep 21: Narcissistic Personality Disorder | The 9 Symptoms

      In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) delve into the complexities of narcissism and narcissistic personality disorder (NPD). We explore the historical origins of narcissism, the DSM criteria for diagnosing NPD, and the key characteristics of individuals with this disorder, including a lack of empathy and pervasive envy. Our conversation highlights the roots, characteristics, and the dual nature of narcissism, as well as the challenges in researching NPD. We highlight characteristics such as grandiose self-importance, the need for excessive admiration, and the interpersonal exploitation that can occur in relationships. We also give a preview on the vulnerable aspects of narcissism, highlighting how it can manifest as low self-esteem and social withdrawal, a topic that will be discussed in an upcoming episode!

      Chapters

      00:00 Intro to Narcissistic Personality Disorder
      01:07 Historical Context of Narcissism
      06:02 Defining Narcissistic Personality Disorder
      09:32 First Symptom: Lack of Empathy
          10:52 NPD vs Autism
      14:24 Second Symptom: Envy
      15:46 Third Symptom: Fantasies of Success, Power, Beauty
      16:33 Fourth Symptom: Grandiosity
      17:55 Fifth Symptom: The Need for Specialness
      20:54 Sixth Symptom: Excessive Admiration
      22:22 Seventh Symptom: Entitlement
      24:17 Eighth Symptom: Exploitation in Relationships
      26:25 Ninth Symptom: Arrogance and Haughty Attitudes
      27:37 Vulnerable Narcissism

      References:

      • American Psychiatric Association. (2022). Diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders: DSM-5-TR (5th edition, text revision.). https://doi.org/10.1176/appi.books.9780890425787 Blaney, P. H., Krueger, R. F., Millon, T. (Eds.). (2014). Oxford textbook of psychopathology (3rd ed.). Oxford University Press.
      • Blashfield, R. K., & Intoccia, V. (2000). Growth of literature on the topic of personality disorders. American Journal of Psychiatry, 157(3), 472-473.
      • Millon, T. (2011). Disorders of personality: Introducing a DSM / ICD spectrum from normal to abnormal (3rd edition). John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
      • South, S. C., Eaton, N. R., & Krueger, R. F. (2011). Narcissism in official psychiatric classification systems: Toward DSM-5. In Campbell, W. K. & Miller, J. D. (Eds.), The handbook of narcissism and narcissistic personality disorder: Theoretical approaches, empirical findings, and treatments (pp. 22-30). John Wiley & Sons, Inc.. https://doi.org/10.1002/9781118093108.ch3
      • 35 min
      • Ep 20: Narcissism Gone Bad | 5 Signs Its Pathological

        In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) unpack the 5 major signs of pathological narcissism, as well as 3 bonus invisible signs of narcissism. We explore warning signs of pride, superiority, vanity, and inauthenticity (among others!), providing insights into how these traits manifest in behavior and relationships. We also explore how anger and lack of empathy manifest. We end the episode by discussing vulnerable narcissistic themes that are less observable, like emptiness, helplessness, and low self-esteem. Our discussion highlights everyday narcissism, as well as darker aspects of it, including antisocial and murderous examples of such.

        Chapters

        00:00 Introduction to Pathological Narcissism

        01:28 Defining Pathological Narcissism
        04:55 Sign 1 of Pathological Narcissism: Pride & Self-Righteousness
           07:06 Defining Defensive Self-Sufficiency
           08:45 Vigilante Narcissism
        10:45 Sign 2 of Pathological Narcissism: Superiority & Inferiority
           13:20 Specialness & Entitlement
        16:50 Sign 3 of Pathological Narcissism: Vanity & Inauthenticity
        19:23 Sign 4 of Pathological Narcissism: Anger & Contempt
        22:45 Sign 5 of Pathological Narcissism: Decreased Empathy & Callousness
        26:12 Invisible Signs of Pathological Narcissism (Vulnerable Narcissism)
        32:44 Summary and Closing

        References:

        • Blaney, P. H., Krueger, R. F., Millon, T. (Eds.). (2014). Oxford textbook of psychopathology (3rd ed.). Oxford University Press.
        • McWilliams, N. (2011). Psychoanalytic diagnosis: Understanding personality structure in the clinical process (2nd ed.). Guilford Press.
        • 35 min
        • Ep 19: Is Narcissism Good? The Surprising Truth About Self-Importance

          In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) delve into the complexities of narcissism, exploring its cultural labeling, the distinction between pathological and trait narcissism, and its development from infancy. We discuss the importance of understanding narcissism in contemporary society, the confusion surrounding its definition, and how it manifests in all personality pathology and personality disorders. The conversation emphasizes the need for clarity in labeling narcissistic behaviors, the balance between healthy and pathological narcissism, and the impact of parenting styles on narcissistic traits. Our discussion highlights the importance of understanding narcissism as a spectrum and the need for realistic self-reflection.

          Chapters

          00:00 Introduction to Narcissism and Misuse of the Term

          03:31 What is Narcissism?
          10:38 Narcissism in Childhood Development
          16:13 Pathological Narcissism
          24:12 The Role of Parenting in Narcissistic Development
          25:22 The Complexity and Variability of Narcissism

          Personality Couch Links

          Website https://www.personalitycouch.com/

          30 min
        • Ep 18: The 6 Mental Health Trends: 2024 in Review

          In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we (licensed clinical psychologists Doc Bok and Doc Fish) explore the cultural and clinical trends of 2024, focusing on global unrest, political polarization, re-examining power dynamics, and the ongoing mental health crisis. We discuss the impact of trauma awareness and the complexities of the victim mentality, as well as state-specific mental health trends revealed through recent research. In this episode, we further explore the state of mental health in America, discussing various mental health trends across states, the impact of misinformation on mental health, and the public's outrage towards healthcare practices, as evidenced in the assassination of United Healthcare’s CEO. We delve into the role of venture capital in telehealth and the ethical implications of profit-driven healthcare. The conversation emphasizes the need for advocacy and ethical change in the mental health landscape, urging listeners to engage in positive dialogue and action.

          Chapters

          00:00 Cultural and Clinical Trends of 2024

          03:54 Global Unrest and Political Polarization
          6:55 Re-examining Power Dynamics, Trauma, and Victim Mentality
              12:22 Cosmetic Facial Scar Study
              13:32 Attitudes Towards Trauma Study
          15:25 The Mental Health Crisis and Its Impacts
              16:30 State-Specific Mental Health Trends 2024
          23:08 Health Insurance and Public Outrage
          27:36 The Impact of Venture Capital on Telehealth
          31:03 Advocacy and Ethical Change in Mental Health

          Personality Couch Episodes Referenced:

          • Personalities that Kill (Ep. 07): https://youtu.be/Ob7WLEX7ZvQ
          • What's Trending in Our Culture and How it Affects Mental Health (Ep. 09): https://youtu.be/uJKTb9Qj8RA
          • References:

            Global Election Results:

            • https://apnews.com/article/global-elections-2024-incumbents-defeated-c80fbd4e667de86fe08aac025b333f95
            • https://abcnews.go.com/538/democrats-incumbent-parties-lost-elections-world/story?id=115972068
            • https://www.ft.com/content/e8ac09ea-c300-4249-af7d-109003afb893
            • https://time.com/6550920/world-elections-2024/
            • Trauma and Our Perceptions:

              • Jones and McNally Facial Scar Study (2022): https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1981-28014-001
              • Kleck and Strenta Study on Expectancy and Trauma (1980): https://psycnet.apa.org/record/1981-28014-001
              • Mental Health Trends By State:

                • https://mhanational.org/issues/state-mental-health-america
                • https://www.aol.com/mental-illness-plagues-va-n-184111928.html
                • Mental Health Venture Capital Companies’ Impact:

                  • https://www.amha-or.com/the-toxic-impact-of-venture-capital-on-psychotherapy
                  • https://www.reddit.com/r/therapists/comments/143v1yg/venture_capitol_funded_mental_health_companies/?rdt=44172
                  • https://www.chesshealthsolutions.com/2023/08/17/the-dark-side-of-venture-capital-investments-in-healthcare/
                  • 34 min
                  • Ep 17: BPD Part 5: Quiet Borderline: A Closer Look at Subtypes

                    In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we continue to explore the complexities of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD), particularly focusing on the lesser-known subtype: Quiet BPD. We delve into the historical origins of the term 'borderline,' discuss the various subtypes of BPD, and highlight the differences between Quiet and Noisy BPD. The conversation also touches on the lack of recent empirical research on Quiet BPD and the cultural emergence of the term. We further emphasize the importance of understanding the internal versus external presentations of BPD symptoms and the implications for treatment. The discussion emphasizes the importance of recognizing the different types of BPD and the need for nuanced understanding in both clinical practice and societal perceptions.

                    Chapters

                    00:00 BPD Name and Subtypes in History

                    04:32 As-If Patients and Quiet BPD Connection
                    11:09 Quiet BPD and Millon’s Discouraged Type
                    14:44 Current Research on BPD Subtypes
                       15:52 Internalizing BPD
                       20:24 Externalizing BPD
                       25:42 Mixed-Ambivalent BPD
                    31:30 Quiet BPD Today and Subtype Importance
                    34:10 Summary and Closing

                    References

                    • Cohen, C. P., & Sherwood, V. R. (1991). Becoming a constant object in psychotherapy with the borderline patient. Jason Aronson.
                    • Deutsch, H. (1942). Some forms of emotional disturbance and their relationship to schizophrenia. The Psychoanalytic Quarterly, 11(3), 301-321. https://doi.org/10.1002/j.2167-4086.2007.tb00257.x
                    • Gunderson, M. D. (2010). Revising the borderline diagnosis for DSM-V: An alternative proposal. Journal of Personality Disorders, 24, 694–708.
                    • Johnston, J. (2010). Being disturbed: Integration and disintegration in the patient and professional relationship. Psychoanalytic Psychotherapy, 24(3), 231-251. https://doi.org/10.1080/02668734.2010.502306
                    • Millon, T. (2011). Disorders of personality: Introducing a DSM / ICD spectrum from normal to abnormal (3rd edition). John Wiley & Sons, Inc.
                    • Rosse, I. C. (1890). Clinical evidences of borderland insanity. The Journal of Nervous and Mental Disease, 15(10), 669-683.
                    • Sherwood, V. R., & Cohen, C. P. (1994). Psychotherapy of the quiet borderline patient: The as-if personality revisited. Jason Aronson.
                    • Stern, A. (1938). Borderline group of neuroses. The Psychoanalytic Quarterly, 7, 467–489.
                    • Wolf, K., Scharoba, J., Noack, R., Keller, A., & Weidner, K. (2023). Subtypes of borderline personality disorder in a day-clinic setting—Clinical and therapeutic differences. Personality Disorders: Theory, Research, and Treatment, 14(5), 555–566. https://doi.org/10.1037/per0000624
                    • 38 min
                    • Ep 16: BPD Part 4: What BPD Therapy Really Looks Like

                      In this episode of the Personality Couch Podcast, we dive into the complexities of Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD) treatment, in particular, the healing power of the invisible dynamics in therapy. We discuss the importance of motivation and insight in recovery for BPD, and the significance of the therapeutic relationship. The conversation emphasizes that while BPD is treatable, the journey is often non-linear and requires active participation from the patient. We also highlight the necessity of setting boundaries within therapy to create a safe and effective environment for healing. In this conversation, we discuss the importance of evaluating effort in therapy, the significance of attachment, and the challenges posed by boundary violations. Our conversation also explores the concepts of transference and counter-transference, the process of repairing ruptures in the therapeutic relationship, and the methods of facilitating insight and connections in therapy. Overall, this discussion emphasizes the individualized nature of treatment and the invisible dynamics that play a crucial role in the therapeutic process.

                      Chapters

                      00:00 Understanding Treatability and Recovery in Borderline Personality Disorder (BPD)

                      05:50 The Role of Motivation in Treatment
                      11:28 Which Treatment is Best for BPD?
                      14:08 Our Approach to BPD Therapy: Invisible Concepts
                      14:58 Boundaries in Therapy
                      21:15 The Therapy Relationship
                      22:51 Bad Therapy
                      26:51 Transference and Counter-Transference
                      33:35 Facilitating Insight and Connections
                      36:35 Summary and Conclusion

                      40 min

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                    We all encounter personality conflict on a regular basis, whether we know it or not. From funky, can’t-quite-put-my-finger-on-it dynamics with that one friend or family member, to the big blowup drama at work with the last person you’d expect, it all comes down to personality.

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